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If Hudler went away for a dozen years or so, came back to the Wings as a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame, and was good for 30 goals a season, then I think I would let him slide on defense and digging out of corners. Those precap teams were stacked and didn't need to be balanced either. Huds has to establish his game before he should be allowed to play it. I would bet Babs is not making unreasonable demands of him, but I would imagine that his expectations certainly would include fundamentally sound positional play - getting his body in the right place versus just reaching with his stick for pucks.

...early games

fuuuuuuu - i blew it on the early starts today Friday, November 26 Carolina at Boston New Jersey at NY Islanders Calgary at Philadelphia Ottawa at Pittsburgh Nashville at Minnesota Chicago at Anaheim Tampa Bay at Washington Detroit at Columbus Toronto at Buffalo NY Rangers at Florida Montreal at Atlanta St. Louis at Dallas San Jose at Vancouver Saturday, November 27 Philadelphia at New Jersey Calgary at Pittsburgh Buffalo at Montreal Toronto at Ottawa Florida at Tampa Bay Dallas at St. Louis Anaheim at Phoenix NY Rangers at Nashville Minnesota at Colorado San Jose at Edmonton Chicago at Los Angeles Sunday, November 28 Columbus at Detroit x2 Carolina at Washington Boston at Atlanta

While I'm sure Babcock's opinion is held very highly, Kenny is the one who has to make it a reality and reconcile business and hockey operations and most importantly fill the needs of the club.. So if it's scoring that the team needed wouldn't we get a better return out of Flip? He actually has marketable value when he doesn't score. Babs is a pro and is perfectly capable of both working with personnel not of his choosing and also of understanding the constraints of the business side of the team. ***The more I think of it though the more I waver because if we could dump huds for a much smaller contract, maybe we could open up enough space for a nice deadline pickup.

No, but its not up to Babs. Kenny won't dish him for only a prospect, they're not gonna get $3m worth of points for him, and another 4th liner would be as useless as **** on a bull. A couple prospects or a propect and a decent pick maybe. I can't see teams lining up for a deal like that though.

A good porter like Smuttynose or Fuller's would be nice.

I'm not looking to dump him at all. He has every reason in the world to improve and the ability to do so. I just don't think many teams would be willing to pick up his contract -cap space or no- if he didn't improve. The Wings also have a greater ability to wait for him to improve because they have 4 good lines and can sit him if need be. Of course having $3m sit in the press box is not a good thing, but doing that and having one of the best records in the league lessens the sting. Certainly if we had no obligation to him and $3M to spend he wouldn't be the first choice, but if we had to trade we'd only get either an equivalent $3m dog in return, or role players (which we have an excess of) or later draft picks. If he sticks it out with the Wings and even partially rebounds it will be a net gain, and the team will be in a good position to resign him at a relative bargain.

How do you expect that his trade value would go up if he doesn't shape up? The point is Leino cost nothing for another team to take a chance on. It's an entirely different story with Huds. Unless Detroit bought out a portion of his salary why would anyone else want to pay his salary, especially if he didn't shape up.

I was the one who mentioned the Brown hit. I still think its true. He plays afraid. That said, I do expect him to pick it up however long it may take. He really has no choice. Unlike Leino, his salary is a big downside risk and makes a trade unlikely. Also, If he finishes out his contract playing this poorly he may as well say goodbye to the NHL.

I think you have a misguided notion about old shoulder pads. They weren't like pillows at all. They were more like wearing a stiff layer of cardboard. In fact, the new shoulder pads are much softer, but they just have plastic caps on the pads. The new pads disperse the energy of impact on the person wearing them. Because of that guys aren't afraid to go at each other at full speed. With the smaller pads, if you took a huge run at a guy it hurt, and you had a better chance if getting injured yourself. The old pads also didn't go far down the chest at all so you also stood a good chance of getting a stick or an elbow to the ribs. Remember how much smaller elbow pads were too? The old pads actually hurt more in general to places like your shoulder, ribs etc but because those are so protected now the real damage comes from guys hitting with more momentum than ever.

you guys didnt miss much. it was just a pretty short and fluffy interview. no revelations.

***NOTE -- NEXT WEEK WILL BE A BYE WEEK ON LIKE DONKEY KONG! PLEASE MAKE YOUR PICKS IN THE SEPARATE THREAD*** PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THE SCHEDULE TO YOUR POST, AND MARK YOUR SELECTION BY MAKING IT BOLD AND BE SURE TO MARK YOUR DOUBLE GAME AS "X2" picks have to be posted before the puck drops / everyone will drop their worst two week's scores / one game a week counts double Friday, November 19 Carolina at Pittsburgh Los Angeles at Buffalo Minnesota at Detroit Washington at Atlanta Ottawa at St. Louis Chicago at Calgary Phoenix at Edmonton NY Rangers at Colorado Columbus at Anaheim Saturday, November 20 Los Angeles at Boston Tampa Bay at Buffalo Nashville at Carolina Toronto at Montreal Florida at NY Islanders Philadelphia at Washington Colorado at Dallas New Jersey at St. Louis NY Rangers at Minnesota Chicago at Vancouver Columbus at San Jose Sunday, November 21 Calgary at Detroit NY Islanders at Atlanta Edmonton at Anaheim Phoenix at Vancouver STANDINGS RECAP a/o WEEK 6

WEEK 7 RESULTS #1 CanadaBoy 17 #2 Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 16 #2 russianswede919293 16 #4 LEBDA22 15 #4 irishtemper14+25 15 #4 hokeychik22 15 #7 Hockeytown0001 14 #7 Vladimir316 14 #7 aflac9262 14 #10 dirtydangles 13 #10 Batigol2k 13 #10 akustyk 13 #10 FinWing 13 #10 CaliWingsNut 13 #10 #19=Legend 13 #10 NeverForgetMac25 13 #17 GoWings1905 12 #17 Zeowingsfan 12 #17 ChitownWingsfan 12 #17 Carman 12 #17 wingfanatic4alltime 12 #17 TheDetroitRedWings 12 #17 kook_10 12 #17 juice71285 12 #17 Zombi 12 #17 T-Ruff 12 #17 Naranja 12 #17 w1ng3dLV 12 #29 dat's sick 11 #29 Aussie_Wing 11 #29 Motown4013 11 #29 edicius 11 #29 wingsgirl001 11 #29 brett 11 #29 Echolalia 11 #29 SeeinRed 11 #29 ToMaToToWnWinGsFaN_24 11 #29 historywillbemade 11 #29 wingslogo19 11 #40 hooon 10 #40 RedOrDead 10 #40 Konnan511 10 #40 Swayze 10 #40 redwingcapt 10 #40 Dominator2005 10 #40 Din758 10 #40 Dan Bylsma 10 #40 crotty99 10 #40 Norwegian Red Wing 10 #40 PavelValerievichDatsyuk 10 #40 The Edge 10 #52 mjtm77 9 #52 Sprsquirt7 9 #52 FinRedWing 9 #55 Blood On The Ice 8 #55 ricky0034 8 #55 TX Wing 8 #58 lookalive07 7 #58 Systemfel 7 STANDINGS a/o WEEK 7

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Friday, November 19 Carolina at Pittsburgh Los Angeles at Buffalo Minnesota at Detroit x2 Washington at Atlanta Ottawa at St. Louis Chicago at Calgary Phoenix at Edmonton NY Rangers at Colorado Columbus at Anaheim Saturday, November 20 Los Angeles at Boston Tampa Bay at Buffalo Nashville at Carolina Toronto at Montreal Florida at NY Islanders Philadelphia at Washington Colorado at Dallas New Jersey at St. Louis NY Rangers at Minnesota Chicago at Vancouver Columbus at San Jose Sunday, November 21 Calgary at Detroit NY Islanders at Atlanta Edmonton at Anaheim Phoenix at Vancouver

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As suggested, I have posted next week's picks thread early so hop on it everyone!

edit - next week's picks game will indeed be played over Thanksgiving weekend, so get your picks in - the thread is up already.

edit - next week's picks game will indeed be played over Thanksgiving weekend, so get your picks in - the thread is up already.

Howie's like a clogged up toilet!

Let's get Helmer a garbage goal!

GOALIE! <. > SIEVE!

I just love love love when the Wings score this many goals. My Wings confidence meter is through the roof! Way to go boys!