Ms_Hockey

Yeah, that's really why the post stuck in my head so well. I remember being completely taken aback by it and thinking "The Wings? Classless? Well.. okay then."

This is the only time I will ever say this... Let's Go Ducks! ..Gosh, I feel dirty now.

I dunno, but Bing Crosby was a helluva guy!

I was actually using words from a post I came across some time ago where someone wrote that the way the Red Wings treated Feds in that situation was "one of the most classless moves I've seen from this organization." So I used the term classless because that's literally what I read.

I remember seeing this hit and thinking "You serious right now?" What a cheapshot. Glad he got suspended, the a-hole.

Yeah, in 2003, I was definitely more concerned with fitting in my 9th grade class than hockey. Man, that sounds ridiculous. I wonder where people get the idea that Detroit pulled the contract on him at the last minute? I mean, from some posts I was reading on here before about it, they made it seem like it was one of the most classless things the Red Wings organization had ever done. Given what you tell me, I don't think there's a chance in hell Feds' number is going to be retired here.

Adopt me?

Does it really matter? Since when is being called a homer the same as telling someone they're pretty? If it was meant negatively, it's an insult. If you want to question my train of thought, then question it without the sarcasm and jabs. But that's really not the point of this thread... or really even the point of the post you quoted and replied to. I don't see what's so hard to understand. I think Crosby is a great player. I think in a couple years he's going to be pretty immense. But RIGHT NOW.. he does some really stupid s*** that people are glossing over by saying he's young and he has pressure from all across the league. If I make a mistake, I still get reprimanded for that even though I'm young. It's not an excuse when I do something stupid. I can't look at my dad and say "But I'm young! Give me a pass!" Life doesn't work that way. As for the pressure.. I realize it's really not his fault. The league has unfairly put this on his shoulders - and hell, I'm not even saying that he's not handling it well. I'm just saying he still has some stuff to learn.. and until he does, I wouldn't want him on this team. That opinion seems to have pissed people off quite a bit. On a side note, everyone wants to try to skirt around what I'm actually saying, picking at everything else without realizing that my fundamental message remains the same - and you can't argue opinion with opinion. You don't have to agree with my opinion, but you certainly should respect it. The fact that some people are getting so ridiculously pissy over a theoretical Crosby add-age to the team is just insane. I've already had to put one user on ignore due to their "I'm going to do my best to pick everything and make you look stupid while still covering it up so I appear to be an OK guy" attitude. I'm sick and tired of having to come back in here and defend myself because somebody doesn't understand how I couldn't want Crosby on this team right now. I don't agree with you. Get over it. Move on. Stop harping on me for it. It's like any respect for a poster is lost because you don't agree with their opinion. It's pathetic.

Because from what I've been reading about the issue in general. Some say that Feds got cocky and left the team.. others say Feds was offered a contract that Detroit pulled on him when he went to sign it. If it was, in fact, the latter.. then it amazes me.

I never said it was his fault that he's getting the attention that he does. And me being the same age really has nothing to do with it. I don't think his age excuses his actions. If you can't handle it, don't put yourself in a position to be faced with it. If he really wanted to, he could tell Bettman he doesn't want to be the NHL's posterboy.. but he won't. You think he's handling it well, and I'm not saying he's not. I just think he has a lot to learn.

Then maybe. He was a good player. Some people say he got cocky toward the end of his tenure with the Wings. Some people still boo him when he comes to the Joe, which just amazes me.

I really don't know. Have we retired numbers of players who didn't end their career with the Wings?

If he can't handle the pressure, he shouldn't be in a position to. Plain and simple.

I wasn't trying to paint a picture. We're obviously not going to agree on this so we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't feel that Crosby, as of right now, is the type of person who should wear the winged wheel. You feel differently. Nothing wrong with that - but I see no reason to start jabbing at each other over it.

I'm not going to continue to bounce back and forth with you. My initial point remains the same. End of discussion. And after I read your other post, I went back and posted the link.. so thanks.

Woopsies. Link.

No wonder my dad liked him so much.

No, I'm implying that since I did a report on it, I'm not a moron and I know what I'm talking about. No matter, here's a few quotes from an article I'm pulling up: I may have mixed some things up, but I'm absolutely 100% certain that McCarty proving he was clean and level-headed was a must for him playing for the Wings again. The Wings had a reputation to uphold and McCarty had to fit that. That's all that needs to be said.

Just never been in a situation where he was discussed, I guess. I know he was one of my dad's favorite players and that he was a hardass. That's all I know.

I don't think it's that he couldn't. I think it's that I wouldn't be willing to take that risk.

I don't have thick skin. Never have - probably never will. (It's one of the most irritating things in the world, but I make due.) Also, I don't have my facts wrong. Whether he was sobering up or not - the Wings made perfectly clear that until he entered/finished rehab and was clean for a certain period of time, they weren't going to bring him back to the team. I did a report on him in high school. (Got a 96% - so it was worth it.)

I'd just like to point out that I said down the road, after he's grown up a bit, I'd be more than happy to reconsider putting him on the Wings. It's just that RIGHT NOW.. I wouldn't want him to be.

Here's an excerpt from Mitch Albom's article "The Courage of Detroit." I think why Illitch coined us "Hockeytown" shows through without me having to explain any further:

Other places don't deserve the title because Mike Illitch has it copywritten and they legally can't use it. /Thread.

I don't find Crosby as immature as I do irritating. Anybody who can sit in a post-game press conference and discredit Zetterberg's play when he not only helped kill a 5-on-3, but took the puck and shot it on the Pens goal is just flat out stupid. Immature? A little bit. Irritating? Incredibly so. I have yet to hear a single player on the Detroit Red Wings bash anybody on another team in a public interview. They're always respectful and maybe even give the other team way more credit than they should. Maltby doesn't have to fight after making a hit. That's not a sign of not being a high caliber of person. Clearly, you'd appreciate a little fight. Frankly, I couldn't care less about hockey fights. So if he wants to skate away, so what? I would never bash a player for skating away from a fight. Chelios hardly plays anymore. Running his mouth? What player DOESN'T jaw-jack their opponents on the ice? I know nothing about Probert or Klima. I'm only 20, need I remind you. Darren McCarty was traded away from the Red Wings and only taken back when he agreed to enter rehab and sober up first. Apparently, I'm not the only one that thinks this team has a reputation to uphold.. and McCarty wasn't fitting that reputation - so bye bye. And lastly, don't ever insult me again. It doesn't get your point across and doesn't make your case... at all.