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True, very true, and if the poster I was responding to had worded it this way I would not have even posted. However claiming Hudler is playing childish games is absurd, I am sure the missing pay checks are something in his mind he is dealing with, but to claim it is childish, Puh-lease! This is very similar (watch out for the nerve I am about to strike) Fed's Carolina deal. He was contemplating what was best for him, he thought Carolina, the Wings thought not! *I have never begrudged nor will I ever begrudge Feds for leaving! My only debates about him on here are his worth in coming back and his HOF status. Never leaving!

Mlive for once is TSN wrong?

Check the other thread, I am not sure this is official yet. TSN is reporting the 1 year deal, but everywhere else is reporting long term front loaded contract. For instance: MLIVE

Good point, isn't Radulov trying to get back or wasn't he like after two weeks of being in Russia?

BIG BAD VLAD!!!! Ooh the landing is exquisite!! Lucky he didn't smash hit neck. Quick detour and I don't intend to hijack, however: See Bert, if you want to hurt some one that is how you try and do it, Claude could have been inured far worse than Moore on that landing, and if he were not a soul would blame Vlad, clean hit in every sense of phrase!

I never thought some one so young would ever go to Russia, Yashin, Jagr etc... were all at the end of their careers, still viable players but towards the end of their cycle!

No s*** if the D and Netminding looks like the start of last season it will be very hard to win with 5 or 6 goals!

This makes me snicker and laugh a little, I love it, some one tried to pull the Red Wings' tactic of sign a guy forever, and it is failing in lots of places. Chi with Hossa, he may be great for them, but he hamstrung them against the cap. Phi, tee hee hee, Pronger unlike Hossa will be on the books unless they trade him, but who will want a 40 year old Pronger. His D is good don't get me wrong, but his overall D is not as good without the hitting and punishment he delivers, sort of like an old Cheli, his D was good, but without the stick work and elbows, he wasn't the Norris Caliber defender he once was.

Yeah mindfly straighten me out on that one, thanks though. That will suck in about 5 years.

I always thought it was the age at signing, hmm learn something new every day!

You are talking about a man deciding his financial future and you claim it to be childish games? So I take you are going to work the rest of your life for the same company even if they cannot pay you even a 3% raise each year, even if an independent, unbiased third person says you deserve 2x maybe 3x your salary? Childish games, I am always amused how easy it is to live with some one else taking a pay cut! Hudler should play with the Wings for 1.5 to 2 max when 2 is probably the starting point for other offers. KHL is known for throwing ridiculous money at players just to get them there, lets say this is 4 years front loaded totaling something like 15 mil. You find signing that offer as a childish game and he should take the 1.5 Detroit is offering him. Oh how easy it is to spend and live off of other people's salary?!

KHL and NHL have no movement agreement, because some one has a contract with the other league means nothing to either.

Philly better disagree he is not 35 yet!

Not even 2 mil if I remember correctly, some other posters will know the exact number.

Getting a true second liner on this team will cost more than the cap space the Wings have. The only way to get a legit second liner on your team that cheap is to draft them, see Fil. Mule.

Kenny and Huds sat down and here is how it went Kenny: Listen man, I got 1.5 for you this year, next year I can give you three. Huds: Hmm can I play in GR until next year? Kenny: No way man I will lose you through Waivers! Huds: What about KHL, I make money, save you money this year, and worse case scenario I come back next year and understand something Datsyuk says to me! Kenny: Winner, winner, CHICKEN DINNER!

No C is for Conn Smythe like the one Turtle won!

I am sorry, but could this be more opposite of the Sakic retiring. Seriously watch the two threads, one will be hearts, flowers, and cards, while the other will be hacksaws, knives, and razorblades!

The Ducks were philly lite imo, now he has just gone up to the full version 2.0. Seriously has there ever been one player that epitomizes one teams style of play, like Pronger does Philly, who wasn't brought up through their org. I mean seriously if you watch Pronger play with a nuetral jersey you would watch and say, wow he must be a Flyer! I must echo the sentiments that I am very happy he is in the East.

This leads me to a question: Better all time goaltender; Dan Cloutier GP 351 GS 320 W139 L142 879 GA 2.77 GAA SV% .899 Andrew Raycroft GP 230 GS 214 W94 L96 622 GA 2.90 GAA SV% .899 Now first off yes Clouts had a longer career (so far), but both had high expectations, and both never seemed to live up to them.

See I get it this time and now it is funny!

Ok so I started reading this thread, and Jedi said exactly what I wanted to say so I figured I would quote it, then I found half of the board saying what I wanted to say. I will leave it at this: CLASS ACT

No not necessarily the KHL and NHL have no agreement in place, like ones most of Europe have set up now.

A defensmen, this must be a GR move. 29 year old played 2 games in Mon and 13 in Dal last year. in 06-07 71 for TBL followed by 65 the next? 161 NHL 16 points 123 pims. The Wings now have 12 D and 8 forwards what the hell? (Obviously an exaggeration)

(Clears his throat) psst look over here: http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59939