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Good read thanks for sharing!

Without a doubt the best news! He seems like he is healthy! Not you or I go to work healthy, but hockey player go to work healthy!

Well of course not, because that last part is exactly what you said fallacy. They are not the best 3 forwards on 1 team, not even close. Best 2 the argument holds water, you can defend that (whether you like Crosby or not he is very very very talented!) top 3 forwards no. Going into this series I saw the Pens as the Blackhawks with the experience the Hawks were missing. (OK stepped away from my keyboard to deal with dog issues and I have no idea where that was going now!)

Love this: "He can take the food off of your fork on the way to your mouth and you would never know it!" Great quote from the clips!

The one thing I will say about both of these teams parades is the likelihood of it being in a parking lot is slim!

I will argue though that he is bar none their best defensive forward, best face off guy, very very good PKer. He makes about 1m more than Cleary and I would say that is fair!

Really, I thought he had a lot of Babs in him, even in the clip about the limo when he was asked about it he took the high road and sort of played it off. I am not saying he didn't want to say F**K that limo and the Wings, but he didn't.

Tonight he earns his money. We saw what happen to Babs in the WCF when his team was against the wall, he lost but I really think he took a lot from that loss to the Ducks. Bylsma has really got to refocus his team they were owned physically and mentally in the last game.

Wombat, with the way the Wings PK has been (except game 5) if the Pens have 6 pps they will probably score on 4. You are right though with a healthy Dats special teams is going to be a huge, huge factor for the Pens.

I would say some of the same apply to the Wings. They have not looked particularly sharp in your building. Since the Pens have no Homer-esque guy that one is out but; The Wings need to get in MAF's Face pass the puck through the Neutral zone Red Wings style Forecheck like games 1-2-5 Get to MAF in a hurry Dump and NAIL a guy, then chase for the Wings!

I am sorry my what if situation was the same type of statement as your Your team lost 5-0, 5 to ******* absolutely nothing zero, they almost had to use negative kelvin to register the Pens score and you are telling me about what ifs. I have an opinion, with a healthy Dats you are screwed unless you start Garon! Now for your trollish behavior: Eat a dick, don't come over to a competitors board and expect every one to pontificate on ways the Wings, you know the team we all root for that wasn't almost moved due to lack of Fan support a couple of years ago, could lose this series and then the cup. These pens fans, Dunlop not you, are a bunch of, nevermind. Question, when starting this post what in the hell went through your head:

You do realize you and you Pens friends are on a Wings board full of Wing Fanatics that want nothing more than a win tonight, correct? What do you expect, did you really expect to come over here and have every one offer you lemonade and cookies? Seriously you are in enemy territory, thinking everything you say is going to be received with open arms is flat out foolish. Especially when (not you I have seen your posts) most of the jackasses are similar to Beware the Penguin. Crosby slashes Maltby in the line to congrat Ozzie says it was nothing in the media, then dives when Maltby barely touches him, then lays face first on the ice. The only way that move could have been more career defining was if Malts scored right after it. Back to your post, same rules apply for you that apply for us, don't like it ignore him! I did for a long time!

Yeah and the Wings score shorthanded on the pp, then ensuing 5v5 they score again, then they get a penalty and score PP, Wings get a penalty call and with MAF out of the net Gonchar sends a bomb off of Ozzie's mask and into his own empty net behind at the other end of the ice. Ozzie never had control his goal and then the Wings score another shorthanded goal! Ozzie auto Hof bid and the Wings win 72-1 (The wings skate off with 15 seconds to play). Wow they game could have been a lot different if it didn't happen the way it did, very nice overstatement of the obvious! The game could have gone different, but it didn't. That blame lies on the players on the ice. If you are looking for solace look at Garon, no gaa, maybe Bylsma should start him?

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Edit: Change of heart! Pens are screwed with Dats healthy. Zetterberg who is only one of the Selke duo got the team here to a 2-2 tie (with some help from his friends). Now the reigning Selke winner and possible defender of that trophy is back. Detroit's D just went from impressive to that is unfair!! One of the best Two way forwards, one of the best puck handlers, one of the best assist men, one of the top players in the entire game of hockey just came back. You may have two dynamic forwards of your own, but they were on the ice in games 1-4, Dats wasn't. Should have taken one in the D before Pavel came back. Worst case scenario Wings win in 7(my original pick, with no Dats it was going to be a home win series) now with Dats back and healthy, Game, Set, Match!

Staal is UFA in the season of 2012/2013 same year as Crosby? EDIT: Are you talking about trading him? My bad if so!

Which years were his prime? 1993-4 82gp 56g 64a 120pts 1994-5 Out half season too few games to use. 1995-6 78gp 39g 68a 107pts 1996-7 74gp 30g 33a 63pts 1997-8 Again too few games to use. So you are saying 2 100 point trophy rich years are better than 4 years of 87,87,97,97, back to back Selke's? You don't value consistency very much do you!

Yeah in two seasons which were the only two he ever bested 90 points. Don't get me wrong his one high end year will be better than any Pav ever puts together (120 pts, 56g, 64a, Hart, Selke, etc...) however if comparing the body of work Pavs is already a better player in the fact that his seasons are not surrounded by 50 60 point seasons (imo). Listen Feds had two monstrous seasons in the Winged wheel, two of the best ever in the wheel. The dude had 5 great postseasons. But how did he do when Yzerman and Shanny were injured against LA. OK stupid knock that was just thrown in there to piss off Eva who will never admit that Pavel is better than Chris Simon at anything (careful exaggeration). You can say he had better years, but consistency is Apples to Zebras Not like you would ever give Pavs credit for ANYTHING! Sure Feds has unreal playoff stats, but where did you mention that in you justification again? Again look at Feds gp and Point totals. 1248 1179 Dats: 526 522 Pavs is the picture of consistency 87, 87, 97, 97 Points the last 4 years. And in fact the only inconsistent years Feds had were the years he excelled, other than that in the regular season he was much closer to a 70 point a year scorer where as certain LGWers (not just Eva) clamor about his Great Seasons with the Wings like it was every season. He had 2! Other than the 120 and the 107 he only hit 87 once! In a much higher scoring league. You can say Feds all you want, but lets not pretend it is cut and dry. Feds Post season puts him over Pavel for me right now (thanks to NN for pointing that out a year or so ago) however Eva they day you give Pavel credit for anything is the day you also admit your stats are half made up!

4 Osgood now has four career playoff assists as a Red Wing. That's a new record for Detroit goalies. The previous high was three, shared by Tim Cheveldae and Greg Stefan.

Hudler is making this face!

Hmm very very persuasive argument! OsGOD FTW!

Bump because again the man handles himself with C.L.A.S.S.! He will be the head coach of a Stanley Cup winner, he wreaks of class and win!

Was camping in the woods, a huge log burned (no s*** even my GF noticed!) into the shape of the Stanley Cup. Right then (9:30 Sat night) that everything was A OK! One question how did Dats look?

Google Van Damme dancing and that was the first one. I think either NFM or NorrisNick were the first to post it last year during the Trade deadline. I

After the EN in game 3 Van Damme was seen outside, here is the vid!