Opie

BECAUSE HE WAS PUT ON WAIVERS DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE SENT HIM TO PURGATORY! Sorry for the yelling but Jebus Christ people, he was waived in Oct. we had this whole discussion already Right here on this very website and where did he end up after that, STILL ON THE TEAM! Edit: this post was filled with logic for the benefit of Konnan's fantasy team, mainly because it will be ignored by the "URGHHHH More fighters" club.

Pretty sure the last game on Versus he took a penalty? Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time!

Didn't the same thing happen all of last season with Downey? Why is it so painful to be a fan of the Defending Stanley cup champs who are in 3rd place in the league right now, while playing relatively crappy hockey? I don't find much pain in rooting for them at all.

See now you and I are on the same page, I too hope they suck for years to come, as with all western conference teams other than the wings!!!!!

Sorry should have phrased that better, I was just pondering outloud not asking you if you knew, if you knew I would have assumed you are A) a mind reader as he hasn't cleared waivers yet, and B) in the org because it just happened.

Hank, Got to say I am impressed with how you and your friend handled yourself. By not harassing people for autographs you probably earned some respect from Steve. I am sure he is hounded by autograph seekers all of the time. To be able to talk hockey, which obviously he loves, with some fans and not have them acting like 13 year old girls meeting Justin Timberlake!

Downey up? Leino up?

So what if next season they sign Hossa and Sundin at discounts? Or lets say they get Mule, Afinigenov, and Sundin? You forget that in a cap era any team can go from worst to first in a single offseason.

You bring up a great point for the whole Hossa Mule debate. What if some other team throws 5 mil at Mule, do the wings say see ya, or do they match?

Good signing on their part IMO. As Aussie mentioned he has had some pretty decent numbers, 70 points is top 30(depending on the year obviously)! Especially if they have him earmarked as the next C.

You are right it can't be called a hot start, oh wait yes it can the season is still very young, he had a great finish to last year, a great playoff, and a really good start to this year, none of that equates to a great season. A great season would be 75+ games and 75+ points thus making him a top 20 forward, he has not done any of this therefore he is not a top 20 forward. He may be "rounding" into a great player, he may be developing into a top 20 forward, he may also be very lucky to be on the Wing of Z, he may also be rounding into Michael Ryder, he may be the reincarnation of Cam Neely, who knows. Franzen is a looking like he will develop into a very solid player but you can not take the end of one season add the beginning of another season and come up with a whole season. He had months to heal, recover, rest in between the two. The 4 years Bert was Bert he put up the following numbers: 72gp 36g 49a 85pts 110 PIM Age 27 82 46 51 97 144 28 69 17 43 60 122 29 82 25 46 71 120 30 What has Mule done that is anywhere near that? He is on pace for blah blah blah whatever, I don't care about what pace he is on, if he (knock on wood) gets hurt in the near future his pace is now worth poop! Now lets awaken his legitimacy at least until he has a full season (not two halves or 3 different thirds) of great play before stating his legitimacy is not in question, especially when his career high is 38 points.

Holy s***!!!! :rotflmao:

Actually I do, and don't call me shirley. You may not, but then again your opinion is not the same as the rest of the world. But that is our opinion we welcome yours.

Fantastic feed, stays clean even in full screen mode!

Chill man it is called a comparison.

Savard?, saying Mule is equal to Savard makes a bold statement my friend, Savard is a Datsyuk like set up man. Plays with the same fire if not more than Mule, Savard will fight, a legit stand and fight not when Malkin is on his back. He may not fight heavies but he has thrown fists. Listen I have a ton of respect for Mule, great on the PK, PP but you do not build a team around him. Savard is Boston's offense, Savard is an all star that makes players better. Mule plays with All stars he is not one, YET. I am not saying in a couple of years or at the end of this season Mule could not be one of the top 20 but not yet. 69, 74, 63 pts last 3 years. Semin? really, seriously, you are not kidding? 73 pts in his rookie year, 42 last year (Chalk that up to sophmore slump) Gomez? Oddly enough same DOB as Mule, that is about where the comparisons end, 70 pts last season, 60 the year before, 84 the year before the lockout. The Sedins? Henrik 75, 81, 76 pts last 3 years, Daniel 71, 84, 74 You do understand that Mule is about to turn 29 and his career high in points is 38, he has played 80 games once, his rookie year, then 69 and 72. Before we anoint him top 20 why not let him earn it. Edit: I would have continued but really why bother.

Sidenote: I don't think they will be fine because of their record. I think the will be fine due to the fact that they have proven the talents that they are and the fact that their record is good means they haven't dug themselves a hole. Their record is not an indicator of how good they are, it is better than they have been playing, but instead of being a pessimist I look at it as they have been able to win games at a point when they are not playing their best which to me means that once they get things going ( I have faith they will) they will be in a good position. If that makes sense, I tend to ramble.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_dadd...p;cp=2#comments This guy actually thinks Melrose is out of his mind. I love how some posters in the comments just start ripping into Mullett, because he is Mullett, and then people start posting all kinds of stats like the fact that Stamkos is -8 with one + game, and the Haters still just say "YEAH MELROSE IS DUMB"! Made me miss this place for the couple of hours since I had logged off at work. Listen I think the guy is the biggest tool, however you cannot expect the guy to win in 16 games with that much turnover. One poster brings up a great point are a new ownership group and new GM going to be able to judge a coach in 16 games?

GS&T I love when you and I agree 100% it saves me so much typing. Mule is not top 20 forward in the league, Mule is not top 50 in the league. Is he very talented, YES, is he a hardworking forward, YES, could he be top 20, sure you could I could we all could, but the OP's statement that Mule is a top 20 forward in the league, is 100% incorrect and isn't even factually based. OH but wait Opie he is top 3 scorer in the league right now! Yes right now he is, does anybody remember Mule's season last year. The reason why everyone talks about the latter part of the season and not the whole season when they talk about Mule is that he has only had really good parts of seasons, never a really good season. Because if 38 points is a really good season some of you need to review your opinion of Sammy, Kopecky, Hudler, Flip and other wings. Top 20 forwards score at least 75 points, or in the case of last season the # 20 forward in the league (Points wise) is Mats Sundin at 78. 4 months does not a top 20 NHL forward make.

What? No Sammy??

Oddly enough in all of this Mullet seems like the logical sensible person. Weird huh?

Before asking this question shouldn't we wait until the Wings record at least begins to resemble that of the tiger? Why worry now, simple so that if the Team doesn't win people can say, see I knew it all along. It is easier to predict doom and gloom and that the world is falling than it is to say, well at least they are winning and I believe the coaching staff and the team will figure this out. And if you do the former no one labels you a homer for having faith in your team. Now let the yelling at me begin.

He can't believe it, neither can I. OMG we got HOSSA!!!

Couldn't agree more, as much as I love the way Mule plays and he is a very good player, but not as good as Hossa!

Nevermind