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Another reason why salary cap is a good thing. Just adds a new dimension to the sport. Even though Red Wings were probably one of those team who were even better without the cap, I just think it's stupid you've got an edge if you have more money than other organization. And that's mainly because most of the money have come outside hockey.

Didn't they both date that same tennis chick?

No Tuukkamania???

Well the core they have is YOUNG. They're expected improve and put up better numbers in the future. If you want to compare that to us losing Hossa etc... our core is old in a way that we don't/didn't have as many guys who haven't reached their peaks.

I don't know what's the high risk here. It's pretty small risk considering the reward.Also, I didn't speak about us drafting Euros in the 1st round. I just said this organization has had success with European players. I would say the chance of for example Kabanov or Tarasenko working out with us is better than in many other organizations. edit: spelling

And after that Savard to Toronto for Kaberle.Man that would make Bruins look serious contenders.

Nothing is 100% sure in anything. Like I said, if you're only going to go after "zero risk" guys you can forget about being a winning franchise in the future. I'd say the chance of him becoming a first liner is pretty much the same as McIlrath becoming a top4 d-man.

How many fans here have even seen any games of these guys they're suggesting?I agree the KHL is risk, especially with Russian players. But how big that risk is anyway? You have to think about what you could get when taking that small risk. Need to think about the reward also. Also, I'd say this organization has done pretty good with Europeans in the past as well and seem to make things work out. It's kinda like in poker. You have to consider how much there is at stake before you make the bid. It would be stupid to fold when you've got a good hand and there's only small risk you lose it and while there is already 5000 in pot and you've only got to pay 500 to stay in the game. Sure, there's a small chance the other guy has a better hand and you would lose that 500. But you compare the risk to the reward, it would be very idiotic to fold. I just feel Tarasenko's potential is bigger and risk only a little bigger than McIlrath's in a way that it would be stupid to even consider not taking Tarasenko.

What I'm on about is that there are actually some fans who would draft Dylan McIlrath on the first round over Granlund or Tarasenko if all were available. Seems ridiculous to me. So no, we're not just talking about getting bigger when someone even considers taking McIlrath over Tarasenko.And yes, someone's afraid to take the risk. Afraid to take the risk with Tarasenko, who has realistic 1st potential and rather taking a defender who has realistic second pairing potential. I can't imagine any other reason for that except fearing small risks or choosing the player based on nationality. Once again: you can't teach talent, but you can fix the skating and fix the physical game. It's not about skill, it's about talent. Just because we need to "stop getting pushed around" doesn't mean we should make stupid decisions in this years draft. Even if we drafted McIlrath it would take three or more years for him being a real physical factor for us in the big team. You can make a trade to get more physical or sign some free agent. But you should always draft primary based on who's the best out there and what you would sacrifice (which should never be talent) when getting him, not based on what you need right now. Of course it should affect as well, but it should never be the biggest factor.

Who exactly is this kinda player then? You have to take risks. It's the draft for God's sake. Draft only "zero risk" physically ready guys every year and I bet you won't stay a winning organization for long. You have to compare the risk and the reward. A guy like Tarasenko actually has huge potential even though there are some risks. Don't tell me you would really draft McIlrath over him as well?This is starting to make me feel sick.

Granlund is considered having the best hockey sense in the entire draft. Trying not to be too biased here, but I think it's pretty easy to say that these kinda skilled players are way more rare than normal tough d-men. At least in the NHL that is. I haven't seen McIlrath play either, so I'm basing my opinions mostly on scouting reports and to what other people have said.Do they show a lot of WHL games over there by the way? I mean how much have you seen him play exactly?

Robert Lang.

But Hudler isn't from North America.

Marleu's contract has probably no clauses involving trading because the cap hit is so high. He could well be moved in a year or two. I don't see why they couldn't still trade him to Toronto, though.

I'd like to see it as well.

Has someone already got a video of the speech?

Definitely the creepierrest.

That's what you get when you put hockey players to keep speeches. Pavel has probably been the only one who handled it smoothly.

Kenny said in an interview that they've got some good d-men prospects in the organization and they'll likely get a forward if there are two equal options. edit: I wanna ask a little question. Lets imagine that a tiny soft, but talented Euro like Granlund would be available when we draft at 21st. And so would Dylan McIlrath. Anyone who would draft McIlrath? Because somehow I feel some people would, judging by the hype over here.

Things are different nowadays. The training is better and the use of all sorts of enchacment (even steroids and stimulants) has increased. I also don't count players who have injuries. Everyone of those players mentioned are at least almost twenty years older than Ilari Filppula, whose body declining and potential was the original subject (after Zenon Konopka of course).

You can gain more speed and more pounds. Those are the main things why certain players play much better in juniors. You can't teach talent however, and those skilled guys will start to take advantage once they grow up a little - which happens partly naturally as well. So it's definitely more advantage to McIlrath-type guys than Kabanov-type guys when in junior leagues.But yeah, if you wanna take zero risk you could draft the player who is already physical and NHL-ready but may probably have nowhere near the potential that talented guy has. It may take more time for the talented guy to get into the big league, but it also usually means becoming a better player eventually. McIlrath and Kabanov where just examples. I'm not saying "don't draft McIlrath", because I'm in no position to say that. I don't know enough about the player, but I think I do know what type of player we are talking about.

Players who are more physical; bigger and faster usually play better in junior leagues when other guys haven't still grown up to their full size and shape. Talented guys start playing well later, as they gain more pounds or fix their skating. More physical players usually play better playing against kids, but once they come into the big league the difference is much smaller.

Your body doesn't start declining. You may have had injuries like I said. Injuries are injuries. Yeah, I admit players stats have declined after 33. What is your take in this whole conversation by the way? Can't you just drop it already?

I actually think they could sign Ellis and rotate him with Greiss. Greiss obviously has potential so maybe they don't want to waste it by getting a clear starter with big cash.