Finnish Wing

I don't know if you misunderstood me or what, but...1) I never said anything about where would the right hand shooter fit better, I just said that when you have both left and right shooters, you have more options. And yes, I do think that having left handed guy on the right side and right handed guy on the left side is much much better for one-timers and shooting from the point, however, sometimes they keep it the other way around, because it's easier if they're trying to play the puck down low. 2) I'm not defending Williams at all here, I definitely wan't Abdelkader on the team over him. I was just replying to a post which said that "handedness don't matter much in Wings PP", which is completely wrong IMO. Handedness DO matter alot in any PP. Did you notice by the way, that you made the assumption that Williams (as a shooter) plays on the right point, but when Ericsson/Stuart would replace him they would also play on the right point and have better shot option. Now, why couldn't Williams play on the left point then, to have that better shot option?

You can't have favourite players that aren't superstars?God, I just laugh at these guys who say "Crosby" or "Ovechkin". So boring... The guy will be horribly overpaid starting from the next season.

It is? Okay, then. xD

It's Darth, not Dark.An unbelievably nerdy comment, but I had to say it.

Probably a mix of Friday, a boring game, a lack of streams and an already guaranteed playoff spot.

I don't want Montreal to get in the playoffs. Philadelphia - Leino Boston - Rask New York - Jokinen Montreal - no one

OR maybe the entire East is like that BECAUSE there are players like that. Maybe Florida, Tampa Bay etc. are bad because the play against Ovechkin all the time?

I'm not sure if that's the right method to see if the scoring has increased in general.

Ovechkin has 8 less games, more points and his team won the President's trophy. Easily better this year than Crosby.

I agree here. Williams is obviously the more skilled etc. of the two, but that doesn't always mean producing when in playoffs.

I haven't seen a PP yet in which handedness wouldn't matter. It doesn't matter how you play it it always does. I dunno how could you possibly ignore it. Ericsson is left, Williams is right if that was what you were meaning.As I said I don't think we need Williams, but handedness DO matter alot in any PP. Even if they don't shoot from the point, it's about the threat that they CAN shoot from there. If the handedness match well there are much more options for passes and much more scoring chances.

I don't think we need Williams, but I do think that the importance of handedness is huge on the PP. It's about having more options and having better options when the handedness match well. Average player with the matching handedness can many times be better than good player with wrong handedness.

Simple plays like dump and chase?

Man, you really know how to say the right things to make everyone mad.

That's your opinion and you can have it.I'm still a supporter of his. I wish he does well and it's interesting to watch his games and see if he can improve himself. I think thatt's what makes it so fun is because I'm not a fan of Crosby like Carman for example, it would be so boring. I like that Leino isn't so good player, but I wish he does well. I don't expect him to put up 50 points next season or anything like that. And I don't expect him to do anything if he stops trying. I just still don't understand why people are basically hating some player like that. But I guess this is a pointless discussion then...

Well, it used to work perfectly. After some time it started to whine about "too many wievers in your location" and I had to use the UltraSurf thing. It lagged like hell. Now it doesn't even let me use the thing anymore.What's weird is that I'm watchin a NHL game in EUROPE and it says there are too many wievers here. I kinda doubt it.

That's again only a assumption of yours and some other people.The game looks the same whether you have zero confidence or whether "you're too lazy to do something". That's why you can't know if it's being lazy or not. And as said, the lazy way nowadays is to go the KHL. Not many guys who are the MVP's in top European league at the age of 25 tend to TRY to get in to the NHL by first having to PLAY A YEAR IN AHL. Finnish league MVP at the age of 25 (not that young anymore) going to AHL for a year for a chance to play in the NHL. Do you get it? Salary in the AHL was lower than Jokerit was paying him in the earlier year in FNL. You don't understand what being a lazy is. Why on earth had he come here while every other player goes to KHL after the money and pretty high level of play as well. Was he lazy last year when he put up 9 points in 13 games? Why had he suddenly come lazy after working on his skating with an olympic skater in the off-season? Lazy people don't do things like that. He obviously worked to be better. He's a moody player. It's not about not wanting to do it. It's about when nthing's going well when you have zero confidence. Especially if you're a player whose game that confidence affects so greatly. It really seems that you obviously don't know what you're talking about while you're calling him a lazy player who is only after money.

Nah... dunno why, but these justintv streams don't work for me anymore. It always comes up with the wiever limit and it doesn't even let me use the UltraSurf anymore.Thanks anyway.

HEY! Where did you get the stream?

It doesn't go like that. You earn a better contract while playing well (also some of it is usually paying for potential). Let's say you play well and earn a three year contract 3M a year and play badly that whole time. So after the three years many teams offer you only under 1M a year because they thing you haven't EARNED a better salary.And I think we can all agree that Leino isn't here for the money, but to actually play hockey on a high level. As said number of times already KHL teams would've paid him much more for the three years than he'll be getting now here in NA (AHL year + 2 years 1,6M). And that raises the question: Is at about being lazy or not being good at back-checking (skating, stamina, strength etc.)?Because basically you are saying that he could do it, but didn't want to because he was lazy. Why didn't he just go to the KHL then if he was only after money. You really think that he didn't want to do well and succeed?

He was pretty useless yes. I already admitted numerous times that it was a mistake to sign Leino + Williams rather than Hudler. Read the above posts before posting please. And it's not because he is Finnish that I like to watch him play. It's because I've watched him a long time already and he is an interesting player.To this I just LOL'd hard. That's basically hating. You don't know anything about his motives. And as I already said he could've gotten much bigger salary playing in KHL A YEAR EARLIER but he decided to play at the AHL first to have a chance to play in the NHL. So you're basically just wrong here. "What a moron." That basically sums up what I'm saying. You HATE that PERSON. It's just a freakin sport. Try to understand. You don't judge humans on how they perform on the ice. That's so stupid.

The player is responsible to the organization. He does his job and gets paid based on how good he has done it. Still don't understand why people HATE players based on their performances. If you sign a player who isn't good enough is it the player's fault or the GM's fault? Leino got traded. That was the "punishment". What has he done to you or anyone here to cause that hatred, that I just don't get. As I said, I don't understand hating any player based on their performances in general as this is only a sport. Off-ice things are different though.And about that lazyness, I still don't think you can even say one is lazy without seeing practices etc. Lazyness is about not even trying as I recall it. Playing to your strengths is a different thing.

I think mindfly is OK. You just gotta understand his humor and that he has these periodic problems.

"Maybe... just to get the money. Kinda like Leino did. Lol."Or maybe Ken Holland for offering him that contract?