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How is Cleary a 2nd line player then? Or Bertuzzi? I lol'd.

I. Want. Doughty.

I think it was a mistake for Flames to get Bouwmeester. They should've just kept giving Phaneuf and Regehr a lot of ice time and get some right shooting power play specialist on the 2nd pairing. They would have better offense than they have now.

So we have 6 forwards in the team that are better than .5 ppg?

Yeah, but that isn't how the point system should be build. It should be build so that you get what you deserve. For the 345685th time: Win is better than OT win. OT win is better than OT loss. OT loss is better than loss.

This is the best system if people are okay with ties. If not then the system in the OP is the best. The main thing is that there should always be the same amount of points on the line, no matter if the game goes to the OT or not.

Leino or Miller will be on that 3rd line with Filppula and Williams. Leino has a contract for next year as well, so I think he has the edge. Abdelkader will definitely go down to play those big minutes there, as he doesn't develop being a 4th liner here. On of May, Maltby, Meech and Lebda will be gone. Probably May so we'll have Maltby, Meech/Lebda and Miller/Leino ready as healthy scratches. edit: That leaves us with: Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary Leino/Miller-Filppula-Williams Draper-Helm-Eaves + Maltby, Miller/Leino Lidstrom-Kronwall Stuart-Rafalski Ericsson-Lebda/Meech + Meech/Lebda I'd like to see Kronwall with Lidstrom and Stuart with Rafalski to get more balanced top4 on the defense. I assume Lilja won't be playing.

Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary Leino-Filppula-Williams Draper-Helm-Eaves

You put Ritola there on the 4th line and we'll just see how visible he is.

He is? OMFG!

I don't even want shootouts. But it's the only way to make the games shorter.

Or not. You don't lose in regulation if the opponent scores on you once. Regulation is regulation. We can always replace shootout with some other fun game that doesn't take too long, hide and seek for example, but it's still part of the OT.

Lidstrom doesn't really care about scoring goals as long as the team wins and he's playing well himself. He's a defender you know.

Can you explain WHY this would be the best system? Again, a win in the regulation should be more valuable than a win in the OT or shooutout. And there should be no difference in the points given between shootout and OT because they're both basically OT. I just don't somehow understand why people won't agree with the system in the OP as it's clearly the best.

So what? The point system is about making the game more entertaining. It's about making the game so that you get the correct amount of points with your performance. If a team wants to play ultra defensive style and play 0-0 to get that one point at OT it's just fine. If a team wants to get those three points they have to be more offensive.

So hanging until the OT and losing then is the same as for example being lazy and sucking and basically losing the game in the first period. Don't think so. Same with the winning. Winning in regulation is better than winning in the OT. And while there are always same amount of points on the line, that means that 1 point goes for the OT loser. How can you not get this? Should be easy.

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Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe they should change the schedule or something, I dunno. Shootouts just don't work properly on deciding the real better team.

I agree with the OP. At first, it would make sense that no matter how the game ends there will always be the same amount of points on the line. So that means no to this current system as well as the soccer-system. Secondly, no game should ever end in a tie. It's just something that shouldn't be even in the soccer. Win is better than OT win. OT win is better than OT loss. OT loss is better than loss. So it's pretty easy to agree with the OP in this one. Also, we need to get rid of shootouts. It's just isn't about the right team always winning. Endless overtime or lets say 10 min overtime periods would be a good method to decide the winner. Of course the game always ends when a team scores a goal, so they're not actually periods.

Ohh... what would Ovechkin be without his center then? That's an endless discussion.

Hmm... I remember Babcock saying something about that line being our best in the early season.

Or Johnny Knoxville?

Hey, it's Max Payne!

Yeah, but you know I was just kidding. I've never even mentioned anywhere about firing Babcock. He's the best coach in the NHL already and hasn't even had a long career here yet.

So this means that next season....