Flintstone Cicarelli

You might have wanted to quit this thread while you were still so far behind. I seem to recall you pulling out the vinegar and water early on and taking this thread for a walk around the lake for a mother/daughter discussion.

Thin Mint?

We do, in PA, know how to make a left turn on a 4-lane highway.

Oh, so you were an innocent guy, almost child-like, sharing with a buch of hostile fans a tidbit about the foreign laguages. How in the world could they not see that as anything but a kind gesture, one fan to another? Here you are helping them broaden their horizons and become more wordly citizens and they thank you with gatorade bottles and an unknown white staining substance. The nerve.

Then by your logic, Malkin's elbow wasn't classless either; it was just a dumb move that ran the risk of costing 2 minutes? Thanks for helping prove the original premise of the thread. Sorry you had to deal with all the tricky words.

Anyone who can figure out what the sentence means wins a Rubik's Cube.

Interesting isn't it that a sport in which so many fans cry for classy play hold onto an outdated, outmoded, and presently unnecessary rule that permits unsportsmanlike conduct. I guess the real key is not being classy or classless; it is knowing when you can be each.

Looks like a refresher of the rules is in order for you. Other than that, you soundly proved the original premise of this thread. For that, I thank you.

Which reminds me, do you think Hossa's hit on a back-up goalie up 5-0 was a classless trait he learned while in Pittsburgh (under the leadership of Crosby and Malkin) or was it grit he picked up in Detroit under what has been described as the kind, loving, fair and sportsmanlike tutelage of the Wings leadership? Do you think Pittsburgh and Detroit fans see that incident in different light? Did anyone in Detroit cheer when they saw the balding scared back-up get smashed by the Penguins’ interpretation of the anti-Christ? I might have.

A. I'm not usre why you would expect it to be a love fest. B. Come to my local bar and watch. You'll get razzed, but there will be no hostility. C. You claim to not have trash talked seems to be proven false by your example of your own trash talking. D. I wouldn't base my perception of a teams fans on the actions of the group of fans that sits in a huddled mass outside an event watching the even while guzzling booze. E. Be thankful you were in Pittsburgh and Not Philadelphia

The Pens have shown the games outside during the playoffs; with the exception of games shown on NBC. NBC has denied the Pengiums permission to broadcast the games outside. There is an effort afoot to try and convince NBC to allow the broadcast, but I doubt they will.

Anyone here find it classless by every single team in the NHL, based on some unwritten rule about sticking up for your goaltender, that there is a free license to hack, crosscheck, punch, facewash, slash any player within 3 feet of the crease on a stoppage---even when those attackers know that the other team is just doing their job looking for a rebound and they aren't going to harm the goalie? Classless or a gritty part of hockey? Can a penalty be called each time? Aren't the actions usually a breach of the official NHL rules? More often than not those hits come from behind to a defensless player. Do you honestly think player A hits player B because there is a threat to his goalie's well being? Or, like me, do you know it is a chance to take a hack at a player and not get called for it while sending a message to the other team that might help keep a crease squatter on-edge for the rest of the game/series? (mind you: I am not talking about the cases where a player is actually roughing the goalie).

If I chuckle it is all your fault.

And my point, which sailed past you like a Kunitz shot-- three feet wide and two feet high, is that your classless is my grit....and backwards too. Your lack of leadership is my taking the aggressive stance to carry past a game with no chance to win...and backwards too. There are people today, on another board, who most assuredly think that Malkin and Crosby showed leadership by remaining physical in a demoralizing game. There are even some that call it a bigger win that they, as scoring players, had the gumption to go nose to nose, fist to fist with players that are more apt to be fighters and roughnecks. To some that shows leadership. Who is correct. Who cares. The interesting bit is that, and I think your muncipal leaders should maket this, Detroit is a city and a populace so very concerend with manners and class.

Flintstone 1998: That Rick Tocchet is the diritiest bastard I've ever seen lace'em up. Flinstone 1991: You see Tocchet slobber knock Adam Graves? Man, I love that guy.

snicker obvious {needs citation}

So, if I was classy in my posting a style, you'd be receptive to my point (even though the thrust of my point would be unchanged)? How odd.

I blame my editors. Do allow me a typo?

You cheated. You used you brain to form a logical and coherent reply. No fair.

The true definitions of grit and class don't seem to be misunderstood. The application of these definitions is the discussion at hand.

Smary. Would it be smary of me to say that I kind of like being called "smarmy"?

Now, now, you are making it very hard for me to keep my promise.

I promise I won't snicker at your use of the word "garnered" and the convoluted sentence you duct taped together to claim something else was convoluted. I promise.

Ok. So the crux of your point is that women and little girls are spoiled and they throw hissy fits? Deeper issues then we need to get into here. Suffice it to say, wouldn't want to be your wife, mother, sister. Next. And I will use an anecdotal story that you might relate to, being a fan of the Red Wings. Was it classy, funny, gritty, good character, or school girlish for Mr. Franzen to take the mouthpiece out of an opponent well over 5 inches and maybe 75 lb smaller and throw it on the ice? Some might say that lacked character, tact, manners, good sportsmanship, and class. Others might say it was hockeyish and give him kudos in the form of moving gifs as avatars and ear-to-ear grins when speaking of it.