Doc Holliday

What are you farking talking about? http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/01/garrioch_holland_to_appeal_lid.html Hell, was the ruling to allow Crosby a free pass just for showing up for the "festivities" (a change in ruling neither Datsyuk or Lidstrom were aware of) agreed upon by GMs? http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/01/lidstrom_datsyuk_the_lidstromc.html

I would say the save he made in OT after Ericsson's brutal giveaway. The fans went nuts and the team kept the pressure for the rest of the OT after that.

Did I say Howard had a terrible game? Did I say the lack of offense was his fault? Down boy. As a fan who had one of his few experiences at the Joe I mentioned what affected me the most. He had a bad goal. I didn't say he almost lost the game or that I want MacDonald out there or that this team can't go anywhere with Howard. I stated a simple fact that he let in a ridiculously terrible goal. Honestly Crymson, what did I tell you about complaining about fans complaining? From HF:

Pretty sure people were going nuts on this site about finding that elusive video of Yzerman kissing Lapointe on the "Kiss Cam", but the NHL actually posted it on their site and I was able to throw it on youtube for when it gets removed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9sC8MhHYZU Enjoy.

Actually you could count it on two hands. He did well but I felt like pointing out the bad goal because it bugged me for the next 30 minutes to see the Wings down by a goal simply because of something like that. Deal with it.

I mentioned the four "breakaways" they had midway in the first, but other than that they really didn't do all that much. They had some small spurts where they would get a good shot in on Howard, but after that it was usually one and done.

"if you was to put me and this here sniper rifle anywhere up to and including one mile of Gary Bettman with a clear line of sight, sir... pack your bags, fellas, war's over. Amen."

Just got back from the game. The Wings were horrible defensively in the first. Four times the defense let a forward get behind them. Howard let in a terrible goal. Wow. Detroit was awful on the powerplay. Could get nothing going. Lidstrom was the best Wing on the ice tonight. Glad he got the first star. The Oilers didn't get much going at all tonight. Detroit was by far the better team. Good, character win. Jones needs to get a hair cut and f*** off already. What a scab. Fun fact: When the refs skated on the ice for the third period, the fans rained down on them with boos (because of the disallowed Bertuzzi goal). Devorski shook his head in confusion and mouthed "why??" in response. I thought it was hillarious to see a ref so perplexed with a fan reaction.

I have. He told me that Bettman makes sure nothing happens to him and that there is a massive conspiracy against the Wings now that he is in the league. Then he ate a kitten and kicked me in the shins. What a jerk.

So how many years does this guy have before we should realistically expect to see him in a Wings uniform?

Same here. I'll be a few seats from the Wings bench so I'll be able to throw things if they don't show up.

Seriously. Quit whining about your "update" thread and actually try to participate in meaningful discussion. Hell, you could start by actually talking about the Bruins/Habs game. The game this thread is for.

Apologies. I misread the latter portion of your post.

Glad I missed this for a James Taylor concert. What happen, Wings?

Dipietro initiated that fight and got rocked. If they wanted revenge on that they seemed to do a good job of doing so by destroying the Pens in the following matchup (Martin's sucker on Talbot was a good way to give a Penguin hell for it too). Regarding the bolded: Yeah, you would think Gillies has never been taunted before with the way he went off.

You know what? f*** off. Scott Stevens was one of my favorite non-wing players. I fought when I played the game. I enjoyed having the Grind Line and having fighters on the team. I would have enjoyed Probert too if I had been able to watch him play. Just because I don't think that the bulls*** Gillies pulled was good for the game doesn't mean its a "pussification of the game". It just means I understand there is a line. You obviously don't and don't really care as long as it is "rough and tumble" hockey. Tangradi didn't run his mouth to anyone. There was no mention of it and there is no reason to think he did. Gillies is a goon, and a stupid one at at that, and took drastic steps to "enforce" that endangered the career of a young hockey player. He could have stood up to him and fought him straight up. He could have hit him with a clean, solid, devestating body check. But no, he crosschecked a player in the head, punched him while he was incapacitated, and then after being kicked out went on a taunting spree while he was helpless. You think that is good for the game? Go ahead, but don't bother discussing anything "enforcer" related to me in the future from now on if you are going to take that stance. Despite the fact he severely affected the career of a person who at worst "ran his mouth" But hey, it's "good rough hockey" right? Who cares who gets injured and how.

I vilify Gillies's actions because they deserve vilification. You are attempting to rationalize his actions based on "oh but Tangradi might have been running his mouth." Really? So you run your mouth and it is acceptable to assaulted with crosschecks, firsts, and then taunts as you are being helped by a trainer? What a joke.

Ah so something Tangradi said was worth what Gillies did? For the record Tangradi didn't do anything that game or previously to warrant such an attack (in fact very few players have done something to warrant that). And you completely ignored the point of my question, which wasn't just the why but what exactly his actions would enforce and how they are acceptable. The apologetics for someone simply because they are an "enforcer" is beyond disturbing.

What was Gillies enforcing when he assaulted Tangradi then taunted him while being looked at by a trainer?

Matt, I'm sick of these video advertisements. I don't want to be talking about the Bruins/Habs game and hear what Billy Ray Cyrus has to say about his daughter.

Chara knew what he was doing. He extended his arms to keep Pac from getting out of the way and that caused his face to slam right into the turnbuckle. Any suspension would be good. He should be punished for that. He probably thinks he can do whatever the f*** he wants since he is so tall and can hardly be touched.

Nitpick much?

Then why are you arguing with me?