Doc Holliday

There is a reason Iginla's goals were scored when Lidstrom was not on the ice.

So did I. It was Miller.

f*** this game.

I honestly fail to see how Miller deserves a spot at all. Eaves should not be sat and Miller is redundant.

Miller is not more effective. Eaves, Abdelkader, and Helm are more effective, and should be consistently playing over Miller. Also Hudler made the play to do SOMETHING with Detroit's offense. So far, there hasn't been anything, and all of the lines are at fault for that. Not just Hudler.

That is because, unlike Iginla, Lidstrom doesn't whine about everything. Did anyone not see Iginla go after Rafalski for rubbing him out on an offsides call?

That was Miller.

Didn't Hudler get rocked making a play that period? Oh wait, we would rather see Miller be consistently mediocre on a line that carries him than Hudler try to get his game in shape on a team that has been on fire lately. Man, to think of how well our team would be doing if Babcock read LGW.

The entire team is awful. I don't understand how you could possibly try to blame one or two players when there has been no offense from anyone.

And you find it strange that a player wants to make as much as he possibly can? It's not like Detroit is full of players who have salaries much less than they deserve.

And this has what to do with loyalty? Hudler went to arbitration due to a contract dispute. Happens to RFAs. The Red Wings had the opportunity to negotiate up until the hearing to attempt to dissolve the issue as soon as possible. They offered Hudler 3 million taxed dollars while Dynamo offered him 5 per year untaxed while providing a car, utilities, and an apartment to live in. Hudler went to Moscow for a year, expecting to play through his contract. When Dynamo Moscow folded, Hudler had every opportunity to sign for another team for more than the 2.8 he was given with Detroit. He declined to do that and came back to Detroit to be paid much less than expected. Right now he is struggling, but unless you can prove to me that it is because he really doesn't want to be here, then it is simply because things are not working for him/he is simply playing lazy/ is not adapting to the North American game/etc. I have seen nothing unusual in Jiri Hudler's behavior. You could argue it is a dick move for Hudler to ask for more money (how dare he, right?), but it has nothing to do with disloyalty.

Can't hurt that he came back immediately and didn't attempt to sign any other contract with another KHL team. I would hardly consider the KHL a "competing" league when it is full of soft skilled guys and the NHL's rejects. He didn't stay in Russia, and from his relations with the team he obviously liked it here.

That has zilch to do with Hudler's loyalty. He was on contract with the Wings even when he signed the two year deal to the KHL. He was planning on coming back. No on the former, yes on the latter. Once again, has nothing to do with what you said about Hudler's "loyalty" earlier.

Played like s***? You gotta stop it, Mindfly. It's absolutely ridiculous the amount of times you ***** about anything and everything that you don't think is perfect.

Yay, this rehashed argument again.

Miller has not been all that special. If anyone should sit it is him.

Bingo. Shoulder pads for goalies are way too big. Giguere is a prime example of that.

Seems like Detroit played like the better team but lost due to last minute shanigans by the Wild. Similar to the Blues game but reversed. Oh well. Pretty much a joke that I was only able to watch the final 4 minutes of the game and watch the Wild take the W.

"You mad, Roy?"

Detroit was able to stay in a game against a team that simply wanted it more. Eventually the Blues' forechecking caused them to make some mistakes that cost them in the third, and the Wings got a win with a 4 goal differential. It is one game. Detroit got the W and learned some things. If the team continues to win, I will be happy regardless.

Why would you want any team with "I steal pucks and elbow people in the head" Pronger and "I whine to the media when things don't go my way" Richards to win a game? Against a team run by Steve ******* Yzerman, no less.

Hudler would still probably miss and fall on his own ass somehow.

HOW COULD HE GET RID OF HIM!?!? HE HAS THE SANDPAPER IN HIS GAME THAT WE NEED!

The Pistons do not deserve to bump Detroit to FS+ for any reason whatsoever.

Get bent.