Doc Holliday

1. He scored 3 goals in the first three series of the postseason (before spraining his MCL). 2. He scored 24 goals in 57 games for the Hawks after his surgery. Lingering effects my ass. Call a spade a spade, guys.

1. Soft play had nothing to do with the Wings getting beat in round 2. 2. The team can easily change direction before the season starts. 3. Apparently I like to do lists.

Possibly. Despite the difference in talent that team probably had the best conversion of player to system that I have seen. Only problem that team had was closing. Always hated that.

Talk about excuse making. 1. He scored 3 goals in the first three series of the postseason (before spraining his MCL). 2. He scored 24 goals in 57 games for the Hawks after his surgery. Lingering effects my ass.

The signings aren't the problem. It is the amount Tallon paid for a select few players. If that doesn't happen, the Hawks win the cup and don't lose as much as they likely will this offseason.

Thanks Dale!

And Detroit played all elite teams in their 08 run? My count is 0 with an honorable mention to the Penguins that year. Topped with mediocre Nashville and half an Avs team and you got yourself a pretty nice road to the cup.

DISCUSSION board.

Not to be argumentative but I don't think that Pronger has much higher education under his belt. Either way the guy is better on his toes with media responses than Burish is apparently... http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip312491#clip312491 I like Pronger a teensy bit more after those quips.

Bombay: Depth is what won the Hawks the cup this year. Do you think with the series Hossa, Kane, and Toews had the Hawks would have stood a chance in the P.O. without their depth?

If that tree wasn't there the limo probably would have smashed into a car moving in the opposite direction. So in a way that tree may have saved lives.

Without their depth the Hawks don't sniff the cup this year. They are going to lose a majority of that depth in the coming years and they have their poor management decisions to blame. Most GMs can take the amount of talent Chicago picked up and form a winning team, but very few are able to consistently put together winning franchises year after year.

Story of Blackhawks fandom.

For the record he said he would simply punch him, and that Pronger played terrible in game 6.

Luc Robitaille says hello.

Heh? Those exist? Invictus, what are you on?

Not at all. I am here for healthy debate, not name calling and character assassination.

Is that what I said?

Get over yourself.

My point still stands. Burish is much worse than Pronger. Okay, but so are we in comparison to any player in the NHL. Burish shouldn't be berated simply for being worse than Pronger just like you and I shouldn't be for saying Kopecky is a useless scrub. If you think I created a sock then talk to a mod about it. In public attack the argument, not the poster.

It is irrelevant considering the fact that I could say that about any poster on this board when they give another player s***. More like irony. You are critiquing players for exactly what I could critique you for. Ergo, ironic. Invictus is no sock of mine. Go ask a mod for our IPs and I will guarantee that they aren't the same. But if you would please like to start some more theories as to why someone may agree with such a "silly" statement of mine, go ahead. Doesn't help your argument any. And go ahead and neg me all you want. I have 230 meaningless points anyway so I have plenty to spend on posts that apparently LGW doesn't like, which in itself is pretty meaningless as well.

You have no idea what my point is. I didn't say once that people can't critique or give players who are better than them grief.

You act like Burish can't call out Pronger because he is so terrible in comparison, which was the whole point. If he can be berated for it, why can't you?

You are acting like he is a scrub in comparison to Pronger, which is ironic because you are a scrub in comparison to Burish. So he called Pronger an idiot? Boo hoo. He said he would punch him? Boo hoo. He said he played terrible? Well I didn't see Pronger as much of a gamebreaker out there except for that wonderful high sticking penalty that caused the first Chicago goal. Big ******* deal.

What NHL team do you play for again?