ogreslayer

Couldn't agree more. Have pre-letter Lids, Hank, & Kronner jerseys in my collection.

Probably sell them to "the devil you know" aka Jim Balsillie & let him move the team to Hamilton.

I assume the dignity of anyone who bids also goes to charity as well right?

OK I have to throw this question out there: Am I the only one here who actually prefers the look of the WC Alumni jersey over the WC jersey itself?

Wouldn't mind seeing Nyquist switch back to his college number at all which would be the first #89 in Wings history. If not for the Weiss signing, it really looked like Tatar wanted to switch back to 90 too.

Now that they have the WC alumni jerseys on sale, I think a #20 Redmond jersey may be in my future.

Shanny signed a 1 year, $4m deal in 2006 with the Rangers & played 2 seasons there before heading back to NJ for a year. Tom Renney was head coach. The official reason Shanny gave for moving on, in addition to saying he wasn't beating down the door to leave Detroit in the first place, was that he felt like he identified a little more with the past than the future of the Wings success. Now the speculation I remember from around that time was that he didn't get along with Babs (and that rumor had been going around quite a bit with a good chunk of the vets) and/or that he wanted to get to a bigger market & sow the seeds for his post playing career either in the media or with the NHL head office.

The same Colorado Avalanche that retired Ray Bourque's number based on the 2 seasons he played there? I think that disqualifies the use of the word strict in reference to their jersey retirement requirements. And on the topic of Shanny, I hold the same opinion that others here have already stated. He won't get his number retired & do think that the Wings need a ring of honor. That would allow for the organization to still honor players that did make a significant contribution but fall short of being the type of not just great but generational player/leader that the Wings will put in the rafters.

I would personally recommend sportsk. Good pricing+sewn on letters. I've bought a few from them & they're going to be my first stop on any new ones. As far as which player to get, if you're going Nyquist, I would probably wait to order until the start of the regular season since the Wings still need to trim the roster by at least 2 forwards. Doubt one of them would be Nyquist via trade, but I would want to make sure before dropping money on a jersey personally. Now if I were in the market for a new one right now & wanted one of the youngsters, I would probably go with DeKeyser myself.

What fans don't realize is it's all just leftover ice from the margarita party Patrick Kane threw right after the parade.

Even if Cleary is back, and I do think that's big if, I have a feeling Alfie will still wind up with 11.

I really enjoyed this little blurb from the article: “We don't appreciate bandwagoners,” the trio said in an e-mail. That had me laughing for a good 5 minutes. The rest of it? meh...

So it's supposed to be a secret that McGuire's a d-bag? If NBC doesn't want people to know that, someone needs to tell them the cat's out of the bag already.

Signings have quieted down across the board. He'll find himself an NHL team willing to give him what he wants before the start of camp, it just won't be the Wings.

Their coverage could be zero as far as I'm concerned. Quit watching anything on ESPN beyond baseball, Monday Night Football, & the odd college football game years ago. Never watch their filler shows like Sportscenter, all their talking head shows, 12 hours of NFL pre-game shows, etc. any more & figure I'm better off for it.

I can totally see where you're coming from on that. He does come across as a little too full of himself at times & I can see how that could get under one's skin. Maybe the Wings need more of that feisty little pest who will get under the other team's skin though. That's certainly a dimension he brings to the table over someone like Brunner & at about a quarter of the cost it would reportedly take to bring Brunner back.

Tatar brings a lot more grit & determination but I just keep having a sinking feeling that either he or Nyquist end up getting packaged up in a trade to get back to the roster limit by the end of camp. A 'we had to include one (Tatar/Nyquist) in order to move the other (Eaves or Tootoo maybe)' type of scenario. Really don't want that to happen.

Applying the new divisions & playoff format, they would have missed the playoffs last season. Your playoff teams from the east would have been: Pens (72 pts) Habs (63) Bruins (62) Caps (57) Leafs (57) Rangers (56) Wings (56) Sens (56) The Isles & Jackets would have been on the outside looking in with 55 pts.

That works too, as long as they reduce the impact of shootouts & stop giving points out for losses.

No Trade Clauses on both would make that rather difficult. Maybe for comedy purposes, they'll use Eaves in the shootout if he's still around. Hear you there. If the NHL keeps 'em, they need to adjust the points system: 2 pts for a reg/OT win, 1 for shootout, & 0 for a loss.

Has the NHL officially banned he spin-o-rama yet for the shootout? That might hurt Bert a bit given that it's his go to move. Still, I think he'll still wind up in the 2 spot behind Pavel if he's healthy. The next highest career shootout percentage mark on the roster I believe is Alfie so I see the order being Pavs, Bert, Alfie. Weiss career-wise is actually slightly lower than Hank's.

Still would need another team out west to balance things out then, maybe Kansas City. All divisions would have 8 teams & Seattle and Kansas City could have a bidding war for Cleary's services to drive Kenny out of the market for him.

Oh I have to continue to poke, it's in my nature. Next time you mean trade a player, then say trade a player. Maybe more discriptively state your point instead of leaving yourself open to interpretation that way. I'm sure I'm not the only one around here that would define "let a player go" (which you mention more than once without once mentioning the word trade until your latest post) as including the option to buy out of an existing contract or not re-signing when it's up. Actually those are the much easier options of clearing up a roster spot than finding a trading partner for your prospects that aren't working out. Since your 2-1 minor leaguer trades to open roster spots happen all the time, I'm sure you could site numerous examples of them for me. When was the last time the Wings traded two young roster players off for the sole purpose freeing up a slot to sign a 19-20 year old prospect? I'm sure you could tell me. One last thing on the "20 year old kid playing junior has more potential to become something over a 23 year old kid that has failed to adapt at the AHL level". If the Wings subscribed to that theory, they would have traded off Jimmy Howard at the age of 24 when plenty of people were calling him a bust after 3 years of going a combined 63-67-9 in GR with a 2.7 GAA & .911 Sv% & 1-5-0 in Detroit with a 2.76 GAA & .907 Sv%. Personally, I'm glad that the Wings show a little more patience & longer-term view with their players they decide to invest in instead of flipping them constantly for the younger, not necessarily better model. So yeah, I'm sticking with my original opinion that you decided to ridicule back on the first page of this thread: There are far better prospects in the system that deserved pro contracts over Quine.

I was originally not concerned that much with term or the NTC figuring that there would be amnesty buyouts post lockout. If not for the injury claim though...

No, I am fully aware that you're saying to buy out another prospect to bring Quine on board. You don't seem to understand my point which is that the Wings (all teams in general really) do not buy out the contracts of minor league prospects that they've put time & money into developing. When an organization commits for example to a three year contract for a prospect to allow them to develop within the organization, they're not going to just cut a player loose a year or two into it just to bring a newer, less developed prospect on board. It just doesn't happen. About the only time you see contract buy outs happen in the AHL are when players actually go to the team & ask for their release so they can sign a more lucrative contract to go play overseas & that rarely ever happens with prospects. More often what you see happen is what just happened with Tomas McCollum. He didn't develop as quickly as the Wings wanted on his entry level contract but was allowed to play out the string & will now be on an GR only contract beginning next season. Could the Wings have bought him out this past season to free up a spot for someone else instead of waiting? Sure they could have but then they lose the player as well as the time & money they spent developing him. Now they keep him in the organization & don't flush their investment in him. You say buy out Parkes, Coetzee, or Raedeke & I'm saying that's an option the Wings never would have used and historically, that holds up. Do you not think that every time the Wings have a roster spot to fill, there's not a discussion on what the best short term & long term options are for that spot given the team's needs? For example, do you not think the front office asked among themselves "Is signing a Chris Conner to split time between Detroit & GR our best option or do we have someone within the organization ready to play that role & if so, what prospect are we high enough on to offer a contract if we don't fill that spot from outside"? I guarantee you that each & every time the Wings sign a player, they do so after taking a look at the impact across the entire organization, including their prospects signed or not. So the question I've posed that you continue to ignore is if you really think Quine deserved a contract, which player signed between July 1, 2011 & June 1, 2013 would you not have signed in order to fit Quine on the 50 man roster? That is the only way he would have been offered a contract. And while I personally didn't like all of the signings the Wings made during that period, based on the organizational needs at the time of each signing, each one of them made far more sense than to sign Quine as far as I'm concerned.