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Don't be dumb my man. Help Z by putting him with Dats. And if you ever played hockey you know you need to have 3-4 great lines. Not one awesome line and a few other bad ones. Come on now. You're bing silly. It's not a demotion necessarily. Plus Tatar doesn't deserve to be on line 1. He plays no defense. Doesn't finish checks. What does he do?

Another kid who will be most likely mistake prone.

You right, you right. Still I think put three best young-stars on the same line. Either from last year or this year. But good point! Um yeah. Our two leading goal scorers rarely score anymore. And aren't playing very good. Sorry but take off your blinders. Tatar can barely get the puck out of the zone or get a shot off/not blocked. Tatar has 3 goals in the last 10 games. Most important games of the season mind you. Well let them develop slower and against less tough defensive forwards on the third line....

Um no. They are playing great hockey. All over the ice. Not just in goal. Did you see them play us last week? We couldn't even clear the zone.

What are you guys seeing in Pulk that I'm not seeing? He's small and not effective at all. Play Jurco please. Or Ericsson on offense and Kindl on D.

He is not scoring at nearly the same rate. He turns the puck over. And doesn't want to get hit. He's a huge reason why we are struggling.

What are you talking about haha.

Tatar has gone missing. Bench him if you have to. Definitely shouldn't be on the second line anymore.

Does it count against the cap if he's in the AHL playing? Also, I still think it has to be Franzen or Howard bought out. But what do I know about buy-outs. Also, I've noticed you just follow me around on here and comment on everything I comment on in a negative/disagreeing way. That's fun for you isn't it? Did you go to any games last year? Any playoff games?

WUT? You don't buy out Tootoo because he costs nothing and is potentially tradable....

I agree with your thinking - I give him this offseason to be better. If we are not up with BOS and PIT by december, I'm ready to move on. Give us a team now.

We just disagree. In the salary cap era. Holland has made a ton of bad moves. Also, I'm not sure Scotty can be compared to Holland. And not everyone has done some good and some bad. It's not that black and white. Listening/Reading Holland's comments today instills no confidence that this team will be better next year.

I don't think Holland has done anything for the team. I think it's been other people and Holland getting more credit than he deserves. Bowman was still here with Holland even when we won in 08. Since Bowman left, everything has fallen to s***.

Don't try to call someone out when you don't even know that BOWMAN WAS A COACH! Also, don't put down Bowman. All he ever does is win. Montreal. Pittsburgh. Detroit. Chicago. I hear you man, I really do. I just honestly disagree and think Holland has some horrific moves you are forgetting. Quincey for a 1st Rounder. Legwand for a great prospect. Franzen over Hossa. Howard for 5. All the players who never played this year. Weiss so far is a bust.

He doesn't seem to have the same perspective and competitive nature that Nill, Scotty, Yzerman etc had. Those games were close only via score, you're 100% right. No one thought we were winning those games after the ice shifted in game 4 and really in game 5 it seemed like Boston was toying with us, playing just hard enough to win and move on.

Why I want Holland gone...He thinks this series was close. “It was a learning experience,” Holland said. “When you look at it, Game 5 was 3-2 (before a Boston empty-net goal), Game 4 went into overtime. Those were close games.” From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140428/SPORTS0103/304280095#ixzz30HeHvCoW

The numbers are the team's RECORD! Superficial? That's all we have to go on. Unless you just want a team that's good on paper...

This was a wonderful post. So good, Rick. Wow! I love you man. If we are going to magically say any games could've been wins with a lucky bounce, let's also say any games could've been losses with an unlucky one. Be fair. We were 14-14-7 on the 1st of December. THAT IS NOT HOCKEYTOWN GOOD ENOUGH.

Sorry you guys feel I am being rude. I feel like you guys are starting with me. Name calling when I bring up my ideas. I've apologized to St. John's once. This is a second time. (His apology count? Zero). Sorry for coming off like a child as you say. But when I just post my idea of a lineup and then it's ripped and I'm called names and what have you, I will retaliate. It's what makes online debating so great and awful at the same time. Don't act like you are being respectful but I am not.

I am not good at CapGeek and so we'd get better players for Abby, Nyq, Howard. Those were trades and I didn't figure out how to get players in return. IT'S A GAME. I was goofing around. And yet that team definitely goes further against the Bruins than we just did. Players are about chemistry, too. The Leafs are not good. Bolland would be good with Dats and Jagr. He is hard on the puck and can score. He is quicker than Abby. Brodeur would teach Petr to be a real great goalie. Blah, it doesn't matter, we are not the GMs. We are just goofing around online. Ken Holland will ultimately f*** this all up however he pleases.

Two words that are names. Scotty Bowman. Three words, which of two are names. Fire Ken Holland.

You don't have to take me serious. I know how much I know about hockey and ultimately that's good enough for me. This is a ******* online forum. Chill out dude. (No you chill out, you just said the f-word). Fine you don't want +/-, fine. What do you want? Every game in the playoffs Kronwall wasn't our best player. Wasn't our best defenseman. He said so himself. He is better against the other team's second line. PERIOD. GIRL TIME. BLOOD.

As long as the people in the organization who matter get it, we'll be okay.... “We’ve been saying it now for three years — it looks good for the future, it looks good for the future, it looks good for the future,” Zetterberg said after the Wings’ 4-2 loss in Boston. “Obviously we have good young guys in our system that really showed they can play. But we’ve seen that before, too. We kept the playoff streak going, but it’s getting tiring to not go deeper.” From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140428/SPORTS0103/304280023#ixzz30C20gWZn

We signed an aging Hasek. He won us a Cup and helped Osgood redefine himself. Why not let Petr learn from the best? I was just having fun anyways. I don't think the Wings are going to let me GM (thank god) [burn!]

You know we reached the 8th seed this year. Lost in the first round in 5 games?