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exactly

of course not but that was hardly the same situation. look at the replay from the overhead camera. you can see that the goalie gets hit by his own player and then moves his legs and then the puck goes over the line. do you honestly think the ref knew where that puck was? he just couldn't see it therefore he blew the whistle. what i have issue with is the uncertainty part. again, remember hossa in '09? the only reason watson (i think) blew the whistle is because he didn't know where the puck was and assumed hiller had it. but from our vantage point you can clearly see even hiller didn't know where the puck was.

so what? it was his own player that did it. what i am saying is that the play should be allowed to play itself out until it is really over not until the referee judges it to be over.

i think the rule itself is stupid. the referee loses sight of the puck and thinks that the goalie has it covered so he blows the whistle but clearly the goalie did not have control of the puck (remember '09, gm 3 vs anaheim?). i understand the ref should blow the whistle to stop the clock; he can't just let the clock run down for another 5 seconds every time a goalie makes a save just to make sure he really has control of the puck. but the bottom line is the rule should be changed so that they can review it and say ok the ref lost sight of it and thought the play was dead BUT... clearly the goaltender did not have control of the puck and therefore it should be a good goal. however, under the current rules, that goal clearly should not have counted.

LOL @ pavel

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that's a joke right?

i could do that. but the shot at the end was cool to see

i noticed that too

this is true. imagine if he had the resilience of favre though. he could have scored 1400-1500 pts.

have you watched any of the games? he hasn't been as bad as the stats suggest. a lot of the INTs are plays where his receiver runs the wrong route or can't handle the pass. the whole team isn't doing as good as they were last season and i think it's unfair to put it on him. either way, favre is the NFL all-time leader in every meaningful category for QBs. to suggest that forsberg is/was a better hockey player than favre is/was a football player is ridiculous.

yea, you're right, it's not fair... to brett. last season brett had 33TDs and 7Int, and threw for over 4000 yards at the age of 40 while extending his games started streak to over 300 games (including playoffs). so, yea... the comparison is unfair to brett not forsberg.

lol, nah i'm not mad. i'm just saying that there is no way holland tells nick: thanks for everything but we're gonna go in a different direction. do you honestly see that happening? i understand you have to plan for the future but lidstrom can only make our team better by being on it. speaking of some upcoming FA's... kaberle, markov, and mccabe are UFA's and doughty and webber are RFA's. i don't think the wings could afford to sign any of these guys. let's not forget howard is due for a big raise this off-season.

where is that god damn minus button??? are you serious???

where's the minus button when you need it?

i didn't say that he would do better. i just figured he might get put in the top 6 purely out of necessity.

maybe franzen will sit for a few (if the speculation about him being injured is true)

yea, you're right. scott oake screwed up on that one and i just followed along without thinking about it

ah ok, i didn't see that it was labeled as part I. thanks for that. and to answer your question, no i am not the one uploading these videos on you tube but i do agree that they were awesome and someone definitely needs to upload mike's. i am sure that someone will eventually.

here's the full version with nick. i didn't even realise that the first video i posted was cut short. sorry about that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG2u_Bi5lhU

here's nick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZSNRPcYB6g

the topics were both on-ice and off-ice. nick was asked which stanley cup he was the most fond of, and he also talked about his family a bit. he was asked about the ******** injury from '08 as well. mike mostly talked about his decision to come to detroit and some stuff from his early playing days. the reason i also thought the interviews were awesome is because they weren't cliche questions with cliche answers. it was a half hour show so they asked them quite a few questions. i'd recommend to anyone who didn't see it to look for it on you tube. someone will probably post it eventually.

because he's soft

they don't have to. his team is 0-4 when he fights. which tells you why he fights in the first place.