Wingzman91

Wings vs. the soon-to-be-rebuilding Senators, should be fun. 4-1 Cleary, Zetterberg, Helm, Kronwall - Kovalev

Staal already hit him once, i think his punch wasn't needed. A dive, really? Even if he did dive, this shouldn't be a place where that would be called, everyone was battling, Staal clearly punched at him. I skate up, punch out the opposition goalie, and we both get penaltys because I say he dove, I punched his helmet, he has to be ok. I'm fine with the call on the ice, and and hoping for atleast a game, for Stall to think about keeping his hands on his stick.

A dumbass reaction to a clean hit, give him the 4 games, fake or no-fake this doesn't belong in the game. Im sick of players getting pissy over a clean hit. I think a intent to injure needs to be claimed every time this happens. Just because I hate all things Penguins, because of the hype, i hope Prust gets his revenge. Maybe just sucker punch Crosby and start the concussion train.

via the Dreger Report: "Nabokov remains firm on his decision not to report to the New York Islanders. Nabokov's representative, Don Meehan doesn't expect that to change and says his client may have to consider returning to Europe to continue his career next season if it's determined the Islanders retain his NHL rights." I kind of figured it would be a pipe dream that Nabokov would play out a full season at 570k. Well this might just end this topic, its been fun, but, I think Nabokov is officially done in the NHL.

Who's going? I'm about 2 1/2 hours from each game, haven't been to a wings game in years, so, I snatched up a few nosebleeds. If your going to either game, reply back, i'm trying to get a sense of how many LGWers are coming.

Tampa Bay Gatorade. What is with the jerseys that look like football jerseys. The problem with selling jerseys to people in FL, its a sweater....in FL. The design was fine before, I liked the underarm stripe the Lightning have always had, but it looks like it is gone from this design. Oh well, gimmicks are what they are.

Never been a fan of Salei, he has been ok and has given Kindl this season to mature. Still think Kindl takes his spot next year.

This.

And how do you know that he doesn't want cancer? How do you know he doesn't want to fold up and get tthe #1 draft pick? Even if everything falls through, if this distracts the team, it improves Snow's pick. Sorry your upset, but, this was a smart move by Snow, even if no one else liked it, no one else is in charge of the NYI.

Anything more than a 3rd round pick would be absurd, unless part of a salary dump. They could shop him to other teams though, which might bring up his value, but, I think the GM's have learned they will have to approve the move with Nabokov. 3rd or maybe two 4th rounders if there are other bidders. Anything more and we should just try to hire someone else to back up Howard. Time to rescue Conklin?

Nabokov's contract will be pushed to next year. The season will have ended, clearing Nabokov of waivers. Then Snow will get to trade Nabby, likely here, hopefully for not much. BEST PART - We get a season of Nabokov instead of a few months.

Here's hoping Crosby has the concussion luck of Marc Savard. Cheers.

Its been reported that both were said. He would and he would not. OK after a few days, here's best case for everyone. The Isles suspend and toll Nabokov's contract, but after this season finishes he clears waivers. Then in the offseason, Detroit and NYI can finally make this trade, and we have Nabokov for a season, for peanuts. Not sure 100% if this would work, the tolled contract is the question, if they push it, but consider this year as he was in the NHL then he should clear waivers, after the season finishes. I think the tolled contract is alot of hot air, but, the Islanders are Bettman's favorite team, that he grew up watching. Troll Toll.

It keeps "Team A" from signing a player that has made money in another league, then comes to NHL to make more, while a team gets a expensive player at a bargain rate to circumvent the CBA.

He has to go on waivers again, any team that made a claim when NYI got Nabby get priority, if none want him then he goes on waivers again, any team, except the Islanders can claim him, even Detroit could then, but they would have 26 other teams to go through.

There is no way that the Isles would toll the contract, the PR damage is going to get bad, I really think this is just the beginning of this debacle. Snow may be the smartest GM in the league, he may have just claimed the distraction that allows the team to race to the #1 pick in the draft. With a built in excuse of "it because Nabokov...", no one can say they intentionally folded for the season.

Nabokov: Isle Stay Home - NYPost: "...It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And I hope they understand that." Well, the Islanders don't. Not even in the slightest. "Why wouldn't he show up? I'm still expecting him," Islanders owner Charles Wang said of Nabokov in a rare press conference yesterday afternoon before the Isles' 5-3 loss to the Sabres at Nassau Coliseum. "Flights are booked. If you go into the locker room, the locker stall is prepared, his uniform is prepared. If you look at the notes for [yesterday's] game, his name is on it." Now, if he sticks with his decision to not report to the Islanders, he will be forced to sit out the remainder of the NHL season. "Here is somebody the Islanders want that wants to play [and] has a contract with the NHL," Wang said. "So, we're waiting for him and looking forward to having him." Over the previous two days, both Wang and Islanders general manager Garth Snow have said they left messages for Nabokov. According to what the goalie said to ESPN.com, those messages never were received. "He may have tried to reach me but there's no message from him," Nabokov said of Snow. "I still haven't talked to him." Snow said yesterday that everything was "status quo," meaning he is still expecting Nabokov to show up. Nabokov's agent, Don Meehan, was unavailable for comment last night. "I dont see why somebody who has this opportunity would not want to play and fulfill his contract," Wang said. "It's nuts, right? I don't understand any of it."

What you have said then is correct then, in theory the last place team would recieve a benefit from this sign-and-trade, and it would be CBA legal. I assume the goalie is in on this, and then I would think the league would still look at this as a possible circumvention, a problem that this metaphorical NJ team knows well. All in all, unless the goalie was blindsided by the move this isn't even a big deal, as any team could then make offers(if this is legal)and outbid each other until it ends up being a last round draft pick, traded to the 2nd worst team with an agreement to trade it back when the 2nd worst team needs a KHL player and the last place team can sign the guy for them....... See how silly it gets? Edit: Hope I finally understand what your getting at.

Lol, ok, what your describing is silly though, in that, if it was the offseason the said goalie doesn't go on waivers. He only has to go on waivers if he started the NHL season on a different league. In the offseason, you could just straight out trade the two players

Except.....any player that has played a game in a league outside of the NHL, after the NHL season started, then gets claimed on waivers, HAVE TO be put on waivers again to be traded, for the rest of the season, no exceptions.period.

Fisher also, is 4 years older than Flip, never won a Cup or married anyone with talent. 4 out of 10 years he managed to play atleast 70 games. This year he hasn't missed any, so far. Call me a homer, but, Fisher has been all the way to the finals, and didn't make it happen then. Hardware does the talking, bs opinions classify the rest.

Some more stuff, this is from the NYPost: "Islanders general manager Garth Snow says goalie Evgeni Nabokov hung up on him shortly after the veteran goalie was claimed off waivers on Saturday. Snow reached out to the 35-year-old Nabokov shortly after the Islanders claimed him from the Detroit Red Wings - the team with which Nabokov signed a one-year contract on Thursday. Snow said when he identified himself on the phone, Nabokov immediately hung up. Snow finally talked to Nabokov on Sunday and was told that Nabokov didn't realize who he was speaking to when abruptly ending the call. Nabokov failed to report to the Islanders, clearly disappointed that he won't be joining the Stanley Cup-contending Red Wings. Instead he is now under contract with the Islanders, who are far out of the Eastern Conference playoff race."

I think people are confusing RFA and UFA here, a team who has rights to a player, ala Hudler, when a contract is signed should have a contract honored. These are snips from the CBA to affirm the thought process that Nabokov's contract is for this year only. Exhibit 1 - Standard Player Contract : If the Player fails to report to such other Club, he may be suspended by such other Club and no salary shall be payable to him during the period of such suspension. Atricle 1 - Definitions: ACTIVE ROSTER - the group of players signed to a SPC and who are not on the Injured Reserve List, Injured Non Roster, designated Non-Roster, or Loaned; includes players who are on a Conditioning Loan and players who are suspended. The Active Roster exists from the day before the start of the Regular Season, and expires at the end of the team's last NHL Game in a League Year, and has a minimum size of 20 players and a maximum size of 23 players. As long as he remains on the active roster,(No Move Clause), they can suspend and not pay him, they don't own him, as soon as they added him to the active roster they started the contract, Hudler, never started in the NHL until a year later, so the contract carried over. Edit: CONDITIONING LOAN - the assignment of a player on a team's Active Roster for conditioning reasons; does not remove the player from the team's Active Roster.

If i'm Nabokov, I'd request a conditioning stint, and then just stay there after they move him to the minors, ride out the season, get paid to "warm-up" in the minors, and get your contract next year. It is nice to see how bad he wants to be a wing though, makes me think we have July 1st news waiting for us. Hope its under 2 mill, hope! Edit: I still like my earlier idea of Nabby mouthing off and getting suspended(league/team), or he could come out when Crosby gets back and headshot him, he would be a legend here. im kidding kinda.

So then, he shows up and goaltends like swiss cheese til they sit him or waive him. Causing locker room problems, and bad mouthing the league, no rule against getting suspended. This is all really petty because he should treat it as a long AHL conditioning stint and just get the contract he wants next year. The NHL tipped their hands if thats the case, because there is nothing in the rules that says he has to play "well".