sleepwalker

Fair enough. I agree, we don't know if he could play hockey again. But then again, we don't know because (or it least it seems) he never really tried to get back into the NHL. He went out and got a high priced lawyer and has essentially just been hoping to bank on the lawsuit ever since. I guess I am just trying to point out to the people who say its not about the money to Moore, (since I have heard that many times from people while discussing the incident and lawsuits that have followed) that that is complete BS. Its ALL about the money. The lawyer has refused to even try to negotiate. His parents even got in on the sueing action, and since the news of the lawsuit first broke, Moore and his lawyer have almost tripled the amount he was originally asking for from 15 million to 40 million.

I agree, around 7 or so would have been appropriate. But at the time, Moores lawyer refused to negtiate, and as you pointed out, Bettman should have tried to mediate. As far as my comments about Moore trying to bank on the incident, etc. I stand by that. Just look at the most recent article. How did the 15 million he was asking for jump to 40 million? Moore and his lawyers (and heven his parents) are really trying to milk every last penny they can out of this IMO. I mean, his parents magically decided to sue for a mil and a half a day before that statute expired on the time limit to when they could sue.

I dunno. Do hippies and neo-nazi skinheads like hockey?

I am not talking about here at LGW, I am talking in general. Most of my friends and aquaintances are not from the Detroit area and are not Wings fans, and a lot (not all) of their opinions have done a 180. As for Bertuzzi's offer, I agree. But so was what Moore was asking for. Its like a business negotiation. One party goes high, the other goes low, and you meet somewhere in between. If one parties offer is insultingly high, than you go insultingly low, and again, you meet in the middle somewhere. And yes, its not just Moore's fault, as the incident wasn't Moore's choosing, but the fact it has drawn out for so long is becasue Moore wants what he wants and doesn't want to take a penny less.

I fell bad for Bert that this s*** is STILL dragging out. I think we ALL felt horribly for Moore when the incident happened, and a lot of us either disliked or hated Bert for the incident. But after all the years and what has transpired since, I think a lot of people have actually done a complete 180 and now feel bad for Bert and dislike Moore. Moore represents the typical North American "sue happy" culture. First off, he could have played hockey again if he wanted to. He did not want to becasue he was banking on becoming a millionaire in his lawsuit. Second, Moore was not a good hockey player and would never have made the anywhere even close to the amount he is sueing for, claiming he would have made. And the fact that Moores money grubbing parents are also trying to get in on the sue fest by sueing Bert seperately for millions for "emotional trauma" or some other such nonsense becasue they saw the hit on TV is some of the most ridiculous s*** I have heard of. Its disgusting and Moores parents should be ashamed of themselves. But then again, it shows us where Moore gets his values from and the overall picture becomes a bit clearer. How about every time a player gets injured, the parents sue the guy who delivered the hit? Better yet, how about every time a player even gets checked or knocked down, the parents sue? Ridiculous.....

I guess I'd have to honestly say... I don't get the question? While I am a die hard Wings fan, the Wings don't get enough national media coverage for Americans to think of the Wings as "Americas Team". As much as I'll get negged for saying so, I'd probably say in terms of the team most Americans have heard of, probably Chicago or Pittsburgh would be my guess. Rangers and Wings would be next up. But then again, like I said, I don't really understand the question, so maybe I am using a different set of criteria.

The hardest fought 1000 games by a player likely in NHL history. The Demolition Man is a true warrior.

No s***. While I will be the first to admit that shady reffing played a significant part in the 09 loss, one cannot forget the fact that Hossa played an equal part in the loss after falling into an apparant coma on us in the playoffs following his fantastic regular season that year.

One of the reasons is that they just don't shoot the puck on the net. Though it seems so stupidly obvious, the Wings like to just pass back and forth on the PP, rarely (or not nearly as often as they should) shooting the puck on net. Start shooting more pucks at the net on the PP, and some of them will go in. Its quite simple.

You realize its just an "article" intentionally trolling since he knows it'll get him some clicks and page views. And you're just helping him out by posting the link...

Lest we forget, one of the big factors in Detroit not winning the cup that year was Hossa's horrible drop off in performance in the playoffs vs the regular season.

Thats not what they wanted him to plea to. They want him to plea guilty for refusing the blood and urine test, which in that state is apparantly a semi major offense, with a max of 1 year jail, and a likelyhood of at least some time in jail if he were to plead guilty. Unfortunatley for Buff, he didn't know that refusing the test would be by far the most major offense he committed, but like they say, ignorance of the law is no excuse.

I read multiple articles about this earlier, and the thing I got from them all was the reason they are going public is to clear the air and state on record that Gordie does NOT have dementia. Just look at the titles of the links right at the top of this web page: "Gordie Howe's son says Red WIngs great does NOT have dementia" "Red Wings legend Gordie Howe NOT suffering from dementia"

I think this probably happens more times than people would like to admit whether intentional or accidental. I think we have all seen the clock freeze for a second or two, or keep running for a few seconds after the whistle before. Not NHL, but just the other day I was watching a Walleye game on TV, and there was only a minute or so left in the period the Walleye were srtuggling to maintain their lead, and even get the puck out of their zone, and when the whistle blew the clock stopped, then ran again, then stopped for a millisecond then ran some more before it atually stopped. It was probably 10 seconds that ran off.

Maybe you should actually watch the video. He looked back directly at his coach, TWICE, then smacked him right in the face. I honestly can't imagine how anyonne with eyes would think that wasn't intentional. Edit: after rewatching, he not only takes two looks back, he then turns his head directly at the coach, AS he is swinging the stick at his face.

Thats f***ed up. There is absolutely no question that was 100% intentional. It doesn't surprise me either though being that its radulov. I was saying it when he was in Nashville and I still feel the same way now. Radulov is a little *****.

What did he say? The NHL has already gone into damage control and had the video linked in the OP removed. Err...um I mean they put in a "copyright claim"

Like the comments above, not to get too political, but the people of the US really don't have any say in the current system. (unless of course those "people" are actually multimillion dollar corporations, then they have a say)

FSD+ isn't working on my cable box. Anybody have a stream??? Edit, must have missed the link in the OP

Nothing dark about what I said, so no need to lighten it up. I'm saying the "mascot" went up and sprayed some big random guy point blank directly in the eye. What did he expect would happen? Seems like he was intentionally trying to provoke a fight and/or get the guy ejected to me.

Hopefully, whoever that retard playing the "mascot" was got their ass fired for that bulls*** stunt. You spray someone you don't know (or even someone you do know) in the eye with some s***, you should fully expect to get hit for it. This isn't some 1965 hippy commune, its the real world.

No thanks. Kid seems like a bit of a prima donna to me. Thats not what the Wings need on their team.

If thats your stance, then why should fist pumping not be penalized as well? It is the EXACT same thing as the salute, only difference being that the fist is closed instead of an open palm...

I agree with Howie, it is getting absolutely ridiculous. I hate to be one of those guys piling on Shanny, but since his lack of call on Lucic, it seems to have turned into open season on goalies ever since that moment to a level I can't recall in recent years. Its gotten so bad recently, that in the latest issue of THN, not only is the cartoon about goalies getting run, but they also did a full article about it as well.

I have jerseys of other teams, but they are either Russian jerseys of Wings players who played on those teams at one point or local-ish lower level pro or college teams. (Griffins, Storm/Walleye, Spartans, Falcons)