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Has it happened yet? Keep hoping and waiting friend, you'll be disappointed, it's holland

The organization has gotta love this kid. Skilled. Hardworking. And a showman on top of that! He's my favorite of the kids at the moment. IMO he has the highest ceiling as well

First off, I don't like this signing anymore than you.Second, you're making up facts, unless I'm completely unaware. He turned down a three year deal? He had a tryout with Philly, and said afterwards I'd rather be in Detroit (who wouldn't ) He's trying to pawn it the signing off on others? Please link to this bc I'm completely unaware of this Cleary audacity. Lastly, questioning his role in the lockeroom is dumb. Mostly bc none of us know what it is, but also bc his continued re-signing probably also suggests we do not understand the full dynamics of that lockeroom and his roll in it. Again, I don't like the signing either. But exaggerating the cleary hatred has become beyond annoying at this point. The guy is bad, but he's not satan himself.

Idk about u, but if I had made the big leagues I woulda milked every second out of playing for the wings. Especially if the GM was giving 2.5 million too. Sure beats retiring

Either that... or hire me, and you, and RichDG as experts heck he should just read LGW for pete's sake!

So it's true. He listens to the expert opinions of the staff he pays for this sort of thing. What an idiot.

good signing

So basically if Alfredsson re-signs Jurco is going down.

Renney has been rumored to be leaving for a while

Oh yeah, just nitpick my wholeeeeeee argument.

Management will change when Holland retires

Would rather have Bertuzzi. If only for the shoot outs

Mrazek is better off with a heavy workload in GR. And if monster or Howie go down with injury he's the only one I trust to step in. The teams done a good job managing tender depth since Conklin IMO

To Edmonton: Dats, Z To Detroit: Yakupov, Baertschi Git er did Kenneth

I feel bad saying this, but I don't just don't the gameplan is getting a cup next year. They're going to do retool till holland retires

I was amazed how gritty he was for an average sized high scoring European winger. He had a level of intensity that you couldn't help but notice all the time. Haven't seen much of him as of late but doesn't sound like it's working.

Everything I saw of Frk after the draft was impressive. Stellar international play mostly. I personally think he has what it takes to regain form. But it's not looking great for him at the moment.

10.5 is a bad contract, and 8 years is especially risky at that high of a cap it.

When it happens (goes up significantly) I'll believe it.

He's a freakin Allstar

Y'all must be pretty green if you're actually believing these green rumors

I apologize. I skim most stuff that still includes buying out Franzen and firing Holland.

Green is much more of a gamble than Tatar at this point. Is rather not move Tats and multiple other pieces for Green.

Kindl, Lashoff, and Andersson should get it done. Other teams love our spare parts. We're the freakin red wings after all.

A realist would realize just how bizarre last season was when it came to injuries