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I count 53 players on contract on cap geek. Isn't the limit 50? Did I miss count? What am I missing here?

This is true. Coaching is one of the few positions that you can't have the same guy at forever. In regards to the Ruff talk, how well would he mesh with this group of guys?

A #1 d-man will never come through trade. This team builds from within.Be patient and wait for Backman, Sproul, Ouellet, ect.

Eastern conference too scary. Red Wings entire roster retires.

What everyone should have learned from this offseason is that YOU DONT BUILD FROM FA. You build through the draft like we have always done and are doing. And naturally as we have one of our weakest years, we also have one of the strongest prospect classes we've ever seen. The Red Wings have been the smartest organization in hockey for over 20 years and they continue to do so. Hockey requires more patience than any other sport. Red Wings have that, and that's why we win every 10 years instead of once every 50. Trusting the system. The winning system.

Sorry, but if I was Howard and I was thinking of my paycheck, I wouldn't take less than 5 million. Source: stats We will be incredibly lucky if he's the team guy we hope he is and signs for under 5 mill

The talk of Dats leaving is unsourced garbage. I'd put as much faith in that as Pope Jon Paul retaining the papacy. Fil has become expendable, It sucks, I love him, but that's business. He's a pass first center that we already have enough of. Moving him in a package for a scorer or a power forward is the smart decision. At the same time I would hate to have him leave though.

I'm not saying we're not a contender. I believe that any team who makes the playoffs can win the cup these days. I'm saying the Wings expect a down year to retool. Playoffs or not. Coaching is irrelevant right now IMO. In my honest personal opinion, I really like Babs. He's the hardass that doesn't care if you like him or not. He wins. A Detroit guy. Sucks that he has to be the guy to deal with this year. I'm sure he's frustrated. But that's business.

I'm sorry but this is so typical. Team starts under-performing and now all of the sudden the coach needs to take a hike. This is classic fandom in the works. Babs makes one confusing move (Abby-Dats-Cleary) that the fans don't like and all of the sudden he needs to be replaced? Keep your heads on. For all we know Abby walked into his office and said: "I can be that next PWF if u'd let me", and Mike said: "Ok, this is a gap year, an experimentation year, lets see what you got." Gives him a shot in the top 6 and it didn't workout. Big whoop. Abby's still young somewhat young for hockey, doesn't hurt to experiment with your young guys. I'm not claiming to be anything special, but I swear half of LGW would be worse than Garth Snow.... but still, it's the only forum I come to

Oh so he's comfortable letting you use the info... as long as you don't reveal who said it. Sounds like a reliable source to me (SARCASM) Seriously are you joking? My respect for KK just dropped immensely

Possibly the biggest news story for one of the biggest hockey franchises ever is being broken by a fan blogger and not a legit news source? yeah, not buyin it.

Hope all the hits this article will get is worth it, cause the Korner is gonna get burned by this unsourced RUMOR if it turns out to be false next year.

Cleary's no Helm but his skating is definitely not a liability. He holds his own.

I'll say this: Sammy is top6 capable, but in no way a desirable top6 player. I'm actually one of the few who will defend the sammy signing, but the above statement is true. The NTC is the most upsetting thing about him. It's very hard to stand behind that signing with that

IMO that's clean. What's the wait on hits? To me that didn't seem that late. Please some one enlighten me. If that's the worst he does, make him a Wing (unless someone can convince me thats douchier than I think)

Very much a Rumor. I know the love for Miller around here is strong because he's a Michigander and a Miller brother, but he's OVERRATED. Would rather have Howie in net.

It really doesn't matter that we might be in the East next year. The Blues are thinking about this year, the price would be too much for us regardless of whether or not they even factored that in to the trade

What? your not happy with Quincey, White, Sammy, Colo, Monster, and Toots?

Yeah a trade with the Preds, Jackets, and Leafs is totally reasonable. None of them hate us. Get on board guys.

Brown over his last 66 games (2 seasons): 6 pts, 153 hits Cleary last years 75 games: 33 pts, 90 hits Abby last years 81 games: 22 pts, 148 hits Miller: last years 80 games: 25 pts, 79 hits Abby looks identical minus the fighting. Cleary is a great secondary scorer with half the hits. Miller had only 79 hits but he more than quadrupedal Brown's scoring. Cleary can PK, PP, skate, add work ethic, and a little scoring (thought he's been slow to start this year) Abby can PK, hit, and skate Miller, can PK and skate just to say all 3 can PK effectively is worth a 7th rounder to someone out there IMO I'll say I would never have asked a 4th rounder for brown though. great fighter, but that's overpriced

Mike Brown was worth a 4th round pick.... to think that we would get nothing for a guy like Abby or Cleary or even Miller is ludicrousness

Legitimate point. But those are all valuable bottom 6 guys. Each on their own are easily worth late round picks. I don't wanna call you a "spoiled wings fan" because I know from your posting history your not, but I do think too many Wings fans don't give enough credit to those guys. Are they expendable? yes. Are they valueless? no. Plenty of playoff contenders looking for reliable/serviceable guys would be interested in them

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Regier still has a job? shocking.

Disagreed. This is a business. Losing assets, big or small, for nothing is not smart. I agree we need to dump our filler guys, but doing that through the waiver wire is bad business. Tots will get some heavy ice time in the minors (which is good) and play there until room is made for him through trade. It's the classic dumb hockey move, but smart business move. At the end of the day business trumps hockey. Playing Tatar now and losing other guys through waivers helps us in the short term but hurts us for the next 10 years when we get nothing in return for them.