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"Hey we forgot to hire someone who knows how to evaluate hockey players!" "No problem, *leans in close and whispers* just trade for former 1st round picks from other teams MWAHAHAHAHAHA" "GENIUS! GENIUS! GENIUS! "Then add a dash of truculence... and VOILA! No cups."

What if we play Ouellet - Marchenko as our bottom pairing? And trade Smith for Smith?

A few posts back you said Jensen was the most valuable of the four ("but not by much"). Now you're arguing that Turgeon is more valuable than Jensen? I never said we'd receive less for Jensen, that's all you. I'm not writing Frk off. I hope he turns it around too. But since he was drafted his stock has done nothing but plummet. Jensen has excelled everywhere he's gone and appears ready to make an NHL 3rd pairing. A team that trades for him knows they are getting a solid asset. Frk is young, so there's room to grow, but so far he's been taking steps backwards, not forwards. There's no current value for a guy like that. "Hey Tim Murray, I know all your scouts were at the Griffins game to pick out who they want in a trade, but how about I offer you a guy from our ECHL team instead?... *click* Hello? Hello?" Callahan at 23 is 3rd on the Griffins in points. He plays an Abdelkader type game, only nastier. But yeah, he's low end "going nowhere" and Frk is a middle of the pack kinda guy

Doesn't this board have a poll option...?

21 or not, a guy who had multiple chances of making the AHL and failed, does not have the same value as 2 kids who haven't even had a shot at the AHL yet, and a guy that would be an NHL ready call up on another team. I don't care who's ahead of Jensen. The argument is about value. You've also called Callahan a low-end "going nowhere" prospect. How is Jensen "middle of the pack" but Callahan is not? Furthermore, how is Frk middle of the pack, but Callahan is not?

Don't act like you come on here and make reasonable posts like "I believe there's a 10% chance he leaves us for the Leafs" you come on and say things like "It looks like Datsyuk will be leaving for Russia" and "I expect Babcock wants to coach the Leafs" implying that you believe the majority chance is that those things will happen. No one here has said Babcock is 100% saying. I believe there's a 10% chance he leaves, and about a 1% chance it's for the Leafs. Hence why I expect he'll probably stay here.

Glendening hurt his feelings jawing at him, so he took a dumb penalty and responded to hecklers from the box. You know, like captains always do.

Maybe the Leafs will hire him as a head coach?

Yeah, you were convinced Datsyuk was gonna leave for Russia too. How did that work out Frank?

Are you reserving judgement or expecting the worst and hoping for a positive surprise Frank?

Fixed

Here you go again with this top end, middle pack, low end BS. I don't care about what arbitrary groups you've personally decided to place our prospects in. I'm asking if you truly believe Jensen, Frk, Ehn, and Turgeon have the same value? That's a yes or no question with a recommended explanation accompanying it. Frk can't hold a spot in the AHL after 2 seasons of trying and Jensen has been arguably the best shutdown D-man in GR since his arrival, and ony getting better. The same can't be said of Frk. Ehn and Turgeon have not had a chance to display anything but slightly better numbers from the teams they were drafted from. So they are essentially worth exactly the picks they were drafted for. For the last time, do you seriously want to argue that those 4 players have the same value? Or would you like to recant your statement? Also, Ferraro and Callahan are low end going nowhere prospects? But Frk is middle of the pack? huh?

Again, you avoid the topic and insist on debating about who is middle of the pack. I've made it very clear that my issue is you grouping Jensen, Frk, Ehn, and Turgeon together, and suggesting they all have similar value as prospects. Not who is middle of the pack. Are you ready to address that?

Wasn't it cause he was foolin around with someone's old lady? Not the French Canadian thing.

You skipped over drinking

Backman already returned to Sweden (Didn't get that in your twitter updates?), so no, he's not ahead of Jensen. So you acknowledge that Frk is so far a bust and Jensen won major awards, but are still holding firm that they have the same value? Value that is somehow also on par with 2 players who were just drafted this summer?

All the Sabres fans I know seem to realize how bad he is. Seriously, for that frame, he is god awful. I assume the fans you know have a Myers version of Brendan Smith syndrome. I too hope he gets moved for underwhelming assets so everyone can just shut up about it.

Cool, congratulations on all that, but I'm not arguing with you about who or what is a middle of the pack prospect. You lumped Jensen, Frk, Ehn, and Turgeon all into one group. Frk is a bust. Jensen is an established defensive D-man in the AHL. And Turgeon and Ehn are newly drafted. Are seriously arguing that those 4 players all have similar value? You literally contradict yourself by saying they won't want 24 year old AHLers like Ferraro and Callahan, but then suggest they would like 24 year old AHLer Jensen. I think the prospect twitter updates your getting is what's middle of the pack

Myers Higher standards, lower prices

Buffalo is poop team

Guys... We don't need anyone Brendan Smiths got this...

No, this is what you said: Jensen: 24. Has already played 2 seasons in GR. Won best D-man awards in college. Is pretty high on the depth chart. Frk: 21. Plays in the ECHL. Pretty much a complete bust as a prospect so far. Turgeon: 18. Just drafted. Plays in juniors. Ehn: 18. Just drafted. Plays in Sweden. It's like you put the names of all our prospects on a wall and threw 4 darts to select them. Besides Turgeon and Ehn that group has absolutely nothing in common. If you're going to comment on prospects, you should probably know a little bit about them.

Pulkkinen is the best player not in the NHL right now (aside from Kovalchuk). But yeah he's 2nd tier at best...

Shows just how bad most LGWers player evaluations are.

Only you would call Pulkkinen a 2nd tier prospect lol