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Still mad LGWers are/were ready to send him to waivers straight away this summer. Kids a great bottom 6 forward, not expendable. Andersson is expendable, sub par bottom 6 forward.

PORTER SCORES na jk

Did they seriously just talk about ALL THE SWEDES the Hawks have? Ummmmmm.... Detroit says hello, we're literally right behind you. Anyone looking for a stream should head to r/detroitredwings on reddit. set filters to hot and new. You'll see the thread and then the links from there.

Doin pretty good so far against a stacked Hawks roster and a lot of CHI PP opportunities

He's always come off as annoying to me

His agent runs his page

Yes Yzerman's "suddenly found defensive game" happened to exactly coincide with the end of the late 80's/early90's scoring frenzy. Be that luck or not, this comparison is bad.

Orr has 24 pts in 476 NHL games. Is this really the argument you want to make? He makes Abdelkader look like Probert

OMG learn to handle the forecheck

Sproul looks like exactly what this d core needs. Honorable mention to Backman and Ouellet as well.

Wouldn't want to overvalue you him like that damn Holland does

Now when Yzerman buysout Filppula he can return to Jokerit to play with his beloved Sellane. Yay.

Remember that comparing Ovechkin to Yzerman should be taken 100% literally. Ovi will now be as defensively responsible as a great defensive center is. Screw analogies.

I'm predicting 82 gp, 27-20-47 for Cleary this year. I think that's pretty fair based on his training camp performance thus far.

Datsyuk already went back to Russia early now Babcock wants out too

NO. He's leaving. We suck and he's leaving.

This team is old and broken down. What is Mantha, like 39?

All out truculence

Or ya kno... they just don't role a typical enforcer... like 20 other teams

My point is: Everyone is better with Kronwall, Kronwall is awesome. People act like Smith could be become awesome, and if he would only play with Kronwall that would happen. But that's the thing, he's only good when he's playing with Kronwall. Dekeyser is good. But so is Ericsson. You might as well pair Smith with Ericsson. Dekeyser is not a great puck mover by any means, he's decent and he has a good slap shot which is about it, he's a defensively minded player. Just like Ericsson. Switching out Q and D is not going to suddenly make our D better, in fact it will probably just look the same. Pushing an offensive minded guy like Smith with another guy with somehwat of an O mind only hurts ur second pairing IMO. Cause then your second pairing is Q-D-E ALL DEFENSIVE GUYS. No balance there.

Babcock is smart, not dumb. As a smart man he knows what he's going to get from the Wings/Holland. That's a playoff chance each and every year. Some better than others. He likes his manager and the system that caters to him. By leaving he runs a huge risk. He walks into a system that may be hot now, but might not be hot tmrw or in 3 years. He might have to deal with big headed players he doesn't like. Big headed managers he doesn't like. Other problems unbeknownst to him. The Wings offer a very stable system, where he knows he's gonna good young talent every year, even if the trade pipelines don't workout. Doubt he leaves. That's a coaching paradise. Crosby may be good, But he has only one cup bc there has been a disaster of problems around him. If I'm babcock I don't want to handcuff myself to that system. I also want my legacy to be reconized because I was awesome. Not because Crosby and Malkin were, aka GlenSather

Q and D are both defensive Dmen. I highly doubt D is going to suddenly re-energize Smith's O game because of his slightly better defensive abilities. Any D-man on this team would excel with Kronwall ad their partner. Smith is not some strange exception. Lashoff would suddenly look lightyears better with Nik.

Dbl A is fasttttttttttttttt man. His MO is break the D with speed along the boards and then move to the net and dangle. I'm just worried that he may be more suited for a rush system, not our possession system.

Are we giving Aaron Rome a tryout? These rosters say a few things to me. Kronwall and Ericsson are likely sticking together again. Smith and Quincey as well. Jurco is separated from the kid line in favor of Nyquist, which may mean he'll be starting in GR. I see a Helm - Datsyuk - Mantha/Jurco line forming. Weiss is grouped with a buncha kids and Abdelkader. I don't know if that's good or bad. I'm thinking the idea is give him a big veteran leadership role early on to build confidence. Idk about forward lines, but I see the defensive pairings shaking out pretty much exactly like last season Kronwall - Ericsson Smith - Quincey Dekeyser - Kindl Lashoff

Yes, but Dekeyser is an underpaid god amongst men, deserving of 4 million a year, and is a future #1 D unless Holland F's it up someho. Don't you pay attention PVD?