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I think Babcock tried that method the first half-dozen times Hasek has embellished contact in the crease this season and it never seemed to get through to him. I don't think he had any other recourse because the "behind closed doors" method clearly wasn't working.

That's possible, yes. Absolutely!

Nope, you're eligible. As long as they match you're okay.

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That was a hell of a right. Hope Todd's OK.

I'm pretty sure McGeough's incompetence level is an equal-opportunity venture.

This was brought up in the "news on Bert?" thread concerning injuries to the Red Wings' forwards, specifically Zetterberg. Ansar Kahn of MLive expands on Zetterberg's injury this morning: http://www.mlive.com/redwings/stories/inde....xml&coll=1 I thought I recalled the original timetable when it was announced he would be out 2-3 weeks at the end of February that the Wings would shelve him for 7-10 days before letting him see the ice. We're rapidly approaching double that amount and there's still no word when he could return to the ice even to practice yet... and now another specialist. I'm finding it hard to imagine Zetterberg returning to practice for at least another 7-10 days (my speculation), then another week of practice.... We're getting awful close to the start of the playoffs there.

Comparing Eklund to Lyle (Spector) is like comparing apples to oranges. They're totally opposite sides of the trade rumor spectrum. Eklund doesn't provide any sources besides himself while *all* Lyle deals with is confirmed rumblings that have been posted in various reputable media outlets. He doesn't post what Jim-Bob's cousin's dog told him.

Thanks. So it's Zetterberg's target date for return, not his definite date of return. That makes sense.

Someone in the organization (or close to it) likely told him that's the target date of return. I didn't actually see McGuire's report on TV, so I'd have to defer on whether or not he said he'd be back on the 30th definitively or if that was the Red Wings' "target date" of return. Seems hard to pin down a specific date when he hasn't even skated yet and you don't know how he's going to respond to that physically. The mention of the herniated disc is just speculation on my part, but it would seem -- looking at what the news outlets have provided us and what's available online to research the back problem -- that it's a herniated disc. I didn't mention it before, but the Wiki page said that disc herniations are relatively "common" for back injuries. A large number of disc herniations don't even result in any pain -- the pain only comes when the herniated disc pushes up and presses on a nerve.

It's definitely good listening on the way home from the office. Thanks for posting these up for everyone, Paul & Bill, it's appreciated!

It does, which would likely mean that Zetterberg DOES have a herniated disc in his back. The more I look at this whole thing (duration of time out, target time of return, etc.) it all seems to point at a disc herniation. Some good reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_disc_herniation A herniation of the disc isn't the end of the world -- the time period that the Wiki article points out (and others that I read recently) points a 4-6 week recovery time with a large chunk of that being rest. Taking that time period and then looking at Zetterberg's situation and the same time period seems to be occuring in regards to his target window of a potential return. Another thing worth mentioning: 90% of disc herniations DO NOT require surgery. I couldn't find much information on recovery from an "inflamed disc" -- other than that it's a listed symptom, along with sciatica, of a herniated disc. I'll believe it if he's on skates next week. Although not comparing apples to apples (surgery compared to rest), Bertuzzi repeatedly set deadlines he wanted to meet (Feb. 20) and those continued to just pass by -- and that was WITH him skating. Back injuries seem to just be a wild card. I remain optomisitc, however, that he'll be back before the playoffs.

He's just repeating what has been tossed around on this board and others for MONTHS now.

....ROXAAANNNNNEEEE!...

Repressed memory?

I figured as much, but I still don't see how an opposing viewpoint (or a "pessimistic" one) equates being labeled a troll. And wait a minute.... Wasn't the Murphy deal one of Bowman's, anyway? Holland, I'm sure, had input, but Bowman was calling the shots then.

Concerning the rankings, based on his bungling of cap management (keeping a healthy player on LTI *all season* because he'd put you over the cap is NOT "shrewd GM skills" -- it's sweeping the dirt under the rug), I don't think Lou deserves that top spot. And bungling the Mogilny and Malahkov signings? Please...

Exactly what part of his post would make you come to the "troll" label? Just because Lou isn't "Joey Blue Skies" about every player and/or move the front office has made doesn't make him a troll. What about the point he raised? He was critiquing the SI piece that labeled Schneider a "right move, right time" and compared him to Murphy -- a guy we got for futures and was integral in the 97 and 98 Cups. How exactly does Schneider compare to that, other than gawdy regular season offensive numbers?

Good to know it was a bruised foot... As long as it wasn't the dreaded "inflamed pubic bone"...

The one that sticks out the most to me was the brutal cross-check from Brad Stuart in the Calgary game at the Joe back in February. He played afterward but "tweaked" it in practice.

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Yeah, but I'm getting increasingly worried about Zetterberg since he hasn't even returned to the ice yet.

It was amusing watching Keith Jones completely trip over Flip's name during the highlights during the intermission of the CHI/SJS game on Versus last night... He finally gave up and said "...the guy who's name I can't pronounce scored on the breakaway".

2nded. They're looking at one of the first games after the Western Canada road trip. Will probably get Zetterberg and Cleary back at that same time, too.

Easy.