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Cheers to Thursday night sauce!!!!! :beerbuddy: esteef

Just got to this! esteef

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http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55802

See again, you lose me with your last sentence. It doesn't "embarrass" me, it pisses me off that such a glaring need is unaddressed when we have the means to address it but don't. I understand the cap implications as to why certain players are where they are, the point is, our minor league team could probably beat half the league let alone our big club, so why do people freak out (not you specifically) when 1 roster spot is taken by a lesser offensive guy that can fight? Kopecky's not scoring is he? Overall the Wings have been successful yes, but they also have been painfully bounced from the playoffs numerous times because of what a lot of fans consider "softer" rosters. So when we see things happen like last night that bring up that glaring weakness, people point it out here. That's all. esteef

That is what is so annoying about this whole situation. The Wings are in a perfect position to have a guy like that on the 4th line BECAUSE they are so deep in offensive talent. But there are still people who ***** about "giving up a roster spot" to such a player. What are we losing? I mean we have to let guys like Quincey walk and keep Helm and Leino in the minors because we have too many good players but we can't spare one f***in' roster spot for a scrapper? Bulls***. esteef

So we shouldn't point out weaknesses in our team's game on a message board set up for that very purpose? Just because the Wings are successful doesn't mean they can't still improve their overall game. They could've probably won even more Cups had they had tougher teams throughout this era. Fighting is one area where they are weak, and as soon as it's pointed out, those people are thrown in with the goon-lover we-don't-care-about-winning crowd. A big scrappy everyday forward on the 4th line is all we need, and by scrappy I mean someone who actually fights and wins. I don't think those kind of players are that hard to find seeing as most of the teams in the league have at least one, some even more. esteef

Thanks for being so "objective". So Suter didn't try for the knock-out punch early in the fight that Hossa blocked with his own swing? Watch it again man. And Suter wasn't "in control" at all, especially with Hossa's jersey completely off, until the end when Hossa lost his balance. But thanks for not being a "homer". esteef

Wait, I thought we didn't need someone to fight because star players were never challenged? What happened? I don't get it? If Hossa got the s*** kicked out of him, as he should have against Suter, this thread would have a much different tone. Instead it's the same old "fighting doesn't score" bulls***. Once again, team toughness, momentum and intimidation don't have stats. esteef

If by good showing you mean a top dollar 1st liner not backing down against a guy who can actually fight then absolutely. Kopecky should be so bold. Sign him Kenny! esteef

Haha! Quick on your feet! :beerbuddy: esteef

Take notes Crosby!!! :beerbuddy: Hossa!

J-Will and the Next Captain!

I saw that! It was an interview with Keating! There was a Lilja interview around that time too where all his answers were one word. esteef

I hear Avery's good for a few laughs... esteef

Kipper's save was awesome. Conklin on Peca anybody?

He's "gritty" too. esteef

Amen. Listening to guys like that will make you think we're gonna trade away Ericsson for a s***ty goalie. esteef

The point is the blonde chick is hot and Tootoo holds his drink like a ***. That is all. esteef

Because to them, fighting is an archaic part of the sport that shouldn't even be allowed anymore because it only serves the stupid WWF/UFC fan who wants to see punches in the face and nothing more. It couldn't possibly build team toughness, create momentum, intimidate other players/teams, etc. Those things don't have stats. esteef

I hear you loud and clear. We may be current champs, but we haven't won the Cup every year, and the year's we didn't weren't because some team "outskilled" us. esteef

I agree with most of your comments in this thread but c'mon, I seriously doubt Sammy was too scared to drop 'em with Crosby. If I remember correctly Sammy was all up in Crosby's face (as usual) trying to get him to drop 'em. The score was close so nobody was really going to fight, they were just trying to draw a penalty. Sammy acts like a puss yes, and agitates and pushes and shoves and facewashes after the whistle with the best of them without dropping the gloves. I just don't think he's scared of Crosby, or a player like Crosby (non-fighter). carry on, esteef