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Examples? Aside from last year's gaff to Selanne I haven't seen any major blunders for him to continue to have that nametag. To me, this type of thing is the equivalent of others teams' fans still saying Detroit has no fighters, it's just not true anymore. peace, esteef

Exactly my point, Lilly is compared to Lids and Cheli all the time. Most defensemen in the league don't compare favorably to those two. If offense gets them off the hook for their mistakes, then Lilly makes up for his by dropping the gloves, especially when no one else on the team would (pre-Downey and Drake era). Cheers to Lilly! esteef

Exactly. If that was Lilja with the own goal people would be calling to hang him here. I've seen Rafalski do worse than Lilly so far. just sayin', esteef

Good! That's right, I'm cheering an injury. Serves his cheap ass right! Karma indeed! esteef

Standing tall amidst the chaos! Atta boy Lilly!!! Cheers! esteef

I'm still seeing the ads after the first post in threads. Doesn't really bother me but, as a booster, should that be happening? Bug? Just trying to help, esteef

Good job by Lilly! He's one of my darkhorses that I secretly root for while he gets ripped on this board. I don't think he makes THAT many mistakes, he's just made a few big ones in the past that have gotten him the bad rep. For the most part, it's hard to hide your mistakes when you play on lines with Lids and Chelios, those guys rarely ever screw up, so naturally everyone's gonna notice his gaffs. The big difference I notice is he just doesn't have the foot speed of a Lebda or even Kronwall to get back if he misplays something, so the mistake is REALLY evident. I've noticed him stepping up at the blueline more (Kronwall too) which is great and he's greatly improved his passing out of the defensive zone. Hell, he even got a goal the other day!!! Here's to him keeping up the great effort! Cheers to Lilly! esteef

They're out there harold. I remember that one guy you mentioned earlier too, Mayers21 or something like that. Oh well, great win and nobody got hurt. Cheers! esteef

That penalty was ridiculous. Lilly just gave him a shove as he tried to break through. You can't even hit the guy with the puck anymore! Definitely a 4-0 call. Whatever esteef

Thanks man! I missed it gettin a beer out of the fridge!

Love those ideas, but King would stomp Lilly. I'd rather have Lilly on Jackman and Downey takin' King or Mayers. BTW, Chelios being back for this St Louis game is huge. peace out. esteef

Ditto.

Yay! He finally stepped up to a real fight and look what happened. He got his ass handed to him. (BTW, Lucic landed at least two more after that one big one as he was going down). Jackman will go back to pushing around the Hudlers and the Datsyuks of the league now. esteef

WE ARE SPOILED!!!!! Cheers and Merry Christmas LGW Crew!!! esteef

Your opinion doesn't equal proof. Fact is he's a -13 with 1 measly goal and 3 assists for the year so far. Couple that with the fact that he goes after non-fighters and you begin to see his ******-worthiness. Which is why Lucic kicked his ass. Merry Christmas! esteef

I wonder what Franzen said to Backstrom after he robbed Hudler? How do you say "You f***in' robbed him!" in Swedish? Cheers to Victory! esteef

Drake totally started that whole play! Getting the puck in deep and protecting it against two guys until help arrived. He gets it to Drapes, then to the point, changes sides and Kopecky fightin' for the rebound in front. Excellent execution right there boys and girls!!! Cheers to Drake!!!!! esteef

No one's crying, you just apparently needed further explanation on everything. So I obliged. Detroit has fighters, I listed at least four of them twice for you but you still don't seem to get it. Jackman's a twit who chases after smaller guys. You seeing more Blues games than me doesn't take away all of the games I've seen where Jackman wasn't Mr. Tough guy around the net with bigger tougher players. So essentially your argument is a big Nuh-uh! To which I say Yeah-Huh!!!!! esteef

Please, if anything I saw more good hits coming from Datsyuk last night than I've ever seen, so thank you Blues! Saying the puck was covered is certainly relative as the play was still live (no whistle). Downey not being in the lineup doesn't change the fact that turdboy still seeks out non-fighters. Also, I've got Center Ice and watch other divisional games, Jackman does not do that to everybody. Good day. esteef

Jackman went above and beyond what normally follows a "poke after the whistle" for reasons I already stated. I highly doubt he gives Downey or Lilja the same treatment if they were the ones "poking" Legace. Him being a ***** still stands. RIGHT! esteef

Downey, Drake, Kopecky, Lilja (hell even Lebda)...you know, guys that will actually fight. Everyone on the planet knows Datsyuk will not fight, which is why tough turd Jackman gave him that extra s*** after the whistle. Guys on the ice know who the fighters are, purposely avoiding them just makes him look like a puss. Having an "attitude" with smaller, unwilling combatants is the cheap way to try and appear tough. I agree though, we could use a power forward. esteef

Yep, everyone's scared of big bad Jackman. It's a known fact he goes after non-fighters (like Datsyuk). He's well aware that guys like Downey, Drake, Kopecky, and Lilja would go with him, which is why he goes after guys like Dats and Hudler. What a tough guy! Refs missed some calls and the Blues capitalized, it happens. Steady as she goes boys! esteef

I have the answer. Bring back Boyd Devereaux! esteef

Great job by the boys hangin' in there and gettin' the win. Ovechkin and Green are god damn divers! Cheers! esteef

Ah yes...another team we need to cash some checks with. Downey, Drake, Lilly? FRONT AND CENTER!!!! Wings - 6 Oilers - 0 Goals: Franzen, Franzen, Franzen, Franzen, Franzen, and Drake! BTW, f*** Torres! esteef