Bill Berzeench

What's realistic? Dougie Hamilton and Keith Yandle were had for scraps. Our gm doesnt know what he is doing.

We have too many forwards. Our GM is not doing his job.

Well said. Concur.

Sorry. I went a bit overboard. Im just excited about our youth and want to see them play. Franzen and Miller dont excite me at all.

The Wings are moving this way, too. Will be interesting to see Larkin get 7.5 mil per for 8 years in 2018. Maybe Green's deal was kept to 3 years to see how the team's talent shakes out.

Abdelkader crushed

Spot on. Fact is 3/4 of the league doesnt even get a stick on his first goal. It was flukey the way it went in, but his hands made that fluke possible. You gotta have guys who score and have a passion for it. Pulks needs to get better in other areas, but that dude can score.

I actually dont think we need 4th line "grinders". Would rather see 12 guys who can all score and play a 200 ft game if we have 12 of those. We finally do. Jurco-Glendening-Athanasiou would be a much better 4th line than Miller-Andersson-Ferraro. I know Babcock has injected the Drew Miller coolaid into everyone and made people think that he's some God on the penalty kill and the best 4th line player in the history of the NHL. All a big sham. 5 goals, -3 last year. We were 17th on the pk. Not 17th out of 20000. 17th out of 30. I'm all for his hustle and gamer qualities, but the fact is that Drew Miller just isnt that good. If he gets re-signed, the Wings will be making a big mistake. This should be his last year here, and he shouldnt be in come playoff time.

Yes. Babcock prefers hard on the puck, good in the dot, and 1 goal losses. Andersson would be playing 22 minutes a night with Glendening and Miller still if Babs was still around.

Larkin leapfrogged everyone not named Datsyuk or Zetterberg. I feel the same way. He would kick ass with Larkin on a scoring line.

The new coach cant sit 10 million of salary in favor of 3 million. This is why Franzen, Howard, and Miller will play out their contracts. To save a little face for the GM.

Frustrating, because Jurco has a good toolset and is super young. Miller, Andersson, and Franzen need to get tossed.

Good pints

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader Tatar-Larkin-Mantha Nyquist-Sheahan-Jurco Glendening-Helm-Athanasiou That's our most potent line-up.

He's here to stay

He's a good player.

I would love to see Nyquist + Quincey + Sproul + 1st 2016 + 2nd 2017 for OEL. I know it's a pipe dream, but replacing Quincey (a legit 2B) with a legit 1B would give us what we need on the back end. I don't think losing Nyquist hurts us with Mantha and Athanasiou getting real close to being ready for full time NHL duty.

If you look at Abdelkader's past, he has a long history of scoring goals. I think Babcock did a POOR job of getting Abdelkader to develop at the NHL level. He should have hit his stride much sooner.

Right on! Go wings!

I agree. Howard is pretty good when he has his confidence and is healthy.

What are the results if Mrazek and Howard are switched?

Just quoting Boiler Room. No offense meant. Sorry.

And Zetterberg demands a trade OR Larkin on his line at all times. One thing - Do Kindl and Smith look really good together now, or is it just me?

Larkin +6.

Larkin +5. Kid is the shizzy nugguh!