Bill Berzeench

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  14. Posted · Report reply

    Toews can win 20 more cups and sign your shoulder as "I LOVE THE AXE" and Datsyuk would still be twice the player Toews would be.

    I'll remember the Toews one because TSN and rest of Canada tells me that he's the bestest.

    I hate Toews. I'd shove the sharpie down his throat if he came up to me to sign anything. I just appreciate silent assassins. Not flashy, but collecting hardware right and left.

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    Look at the players Datsyuk plays with NOW. He's 37 years old and has a better PPG rate than Toews. Datsyuk has a s***ty roster since Lidstrom left and STILL puts up great numbers even though he's OLD. Get over it. Prime Datsyuk is better than Prime Toews.

    Even if Toews wins the cup and gets the conn smythe again this year?

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    Since 2002, meaning starting in 2003?

    Yzerman, Fedorov, Shanahan, Hull, Robitaille, Larionov, Chelios, Lidstrom, Hasek, Modano, Alfredsson. That's 11 players.

    If Zetterberg, Joseph or Hossa ever make it, I suppose you can say he played with 14. I hope I didn't miss anyone, but I'm pretty sure I didn't miss 12 players.

    You can't use national team players. If that were the case, then Scott Hannan played with about 15 Hall of Famers. Actually, if you're adding to my list, only Ovechkin is a sure lock. I don't think Kovalchuk or Kovalev will make it there.

    You guys all got the point. Datsyuk has been surrounded by talent just as Toews is surrounded by talent. I just wanted to get that argument buried, because it's not an easy one to measure and it looks to favor Datsyuk, if either of the 2. Are we agreed now?

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    Why do people always assume praising Toews means Pasha is less? They are totally different players , Pasha in his prime was according to his fellow NHL hands down the most purely skilled guy. Toews is a great leader coming through when it matters, he will never lead the league in points but he does everything well. So why is pointing that out a problem?

    There are tons of great players doesn't mean Pasha isn't elite and ridiculously skilled

    Well said. Datayuk is phenominal. But it's ok to respect another player's greatness too.

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    Been a great 10 years, wish I had found this community sooner. It's been an honor to be here among all of you, through all the great posters who have been here and even the rough ones we had to endure.

    Here's to another 20 years, thanks to Matt for all the hard work and dedication, to Mikey for being our resident GDT guru, the moderation staff, and all the posters that make this place great.

    I like your GDTs.

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    Could you please list these 26 hall of famers?

    There is nothing wrong with playing with great players, but when people say you have "intangibles" it usually means your team wins alot. This is why I believe Toews is overrated, if he was on Columbus, nobody would be calling him the best player in the NHL.

    This argument doesn't apply to Datsyuk, Datsyuk is not overrated.

    You count em up.