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Just because Pavel's role transcends the defensive aspect doesn't mean he's not the best defensive forward as well. You don't need stats to realize this, just watch him play. Tell me, who's else is having a Selke type year?

Well, I don't think Pavel's competition are having very strong seasons. He does stand out. But his offensive prowess tends to eclipse his defense. If he wanted to focus on that, he could easily be the at the top of the league in that department. He's got the speed, the awareness, the hands. He's the first guy back on the back check, saves more goals than he scores, and on the pk, watch how many times he makes the opposing pp puck carrier turn back/ make a questionable pass. Who is Fisher "shutting down" if he's -9? It's true that +/- can be a skewed stat, but perhaps some stats freaks might show us an example of a past Selke winner who was well into the minus... I mean there's still time in the season for Fisher to get his sh*t together in this area but... edit: a check of the plus/minus of the last ten years or so of Selke winners, showed none of them were in the minus...

Please STFU about Fedorov already...

Fisher is currently a -9.

I hope Nashville doesn't let their goons go... Downey needs to have a serious presence in the third...

How does Datsyuk come up with those pucks game in and game out?

Mr. Kronwall: please feel free to stay healthy...

1. Pavel Datsyuk 2. Nick Lidstrom 3. Hank Z 4. Wayne Gretzky 5. Vladimir Konstantinov I know im a wingnut...

Well Kira, canuckleheads are a jealous lot as Pavel is neither soft nor one-dimensional...

Arice, you're right, Pahlsson is the best def. forward in the game but he's not having a good year at -3

I remember being at a Wings/Canucks game in Van and loudly marvelling at Datsyuk's doing the pacman thru the Nucks and some idiot yelled "He's good but he's soft and one-dimensional!" I yelled back "Well he's no Sedin..."

He's been a lock for a while now... To think that during his contract "negotiations" some posters on this board were saying absurd things like "Datsyuk may be a good hockey player but not in the NHL" As I said then, he's an elite NHL'er...

What a bold, intelligent and perceptive statement...

I have a sig that addresses the issue...

Ericsson all the way! His size exceeds Lilja's and Lilja's ineptitude surpasses a rookie's inexperience.

Crosby best player? No way. Cat's name is Nick Lidstrom.

Defensemen shouldn't try to swat shots on their net out of the air... 'course it's the GOAT...

LILJA SCORES...........................on DOM.

Lets go boys! Keep on with the winnin' ways!

Lilja preventing goals, huh won't last...

Nice work by our top forward to set that one up...

Zetterberg is out to lunch

Wings will win... because it's March.

Stuart seems like a nice guy, he should fit right in.

Ah yes, the debut knee injury, the deadline deal classic...