4/3 GDT: Predators 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

[4/3 GDT: Predators 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)]

Franzen is so strong, that was all because he hustled

[4/3 GDT: Predators 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)]

Why is Filppula so damn soft, as soon as he gets touched he loses the puck

[4/3 GDT: Predators 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)]

Williams is brutal, he makes me miss Sammuelsson

[4/3 GDT: Predators 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)]

Datsyuk should win another Selke this year

[10/13 GDT: Red Wings, 2 at Sabres, 6]

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And therein lies (lays?) my whole point. YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO GET A COMPLETE GAME FROM THEM. Sometimes, like tonight - not even half a game. Get real or go crazy.

Just let me be frustrated...LOL

[10/13 GDT: Red Wings, 2 at Sabres, 6]

This is the thing, I think. Yeah, you have expectations because they usually win. Expectations can kill you. They can mess you up when you least expect it.

One more time. The Wings owe us nothing. They will have bad nights. They may even have bad weeks/months/seasons. But they owe us nothing. They only owe themselves, since they're the ones who truly suffer for their ineptitude.

What I'd like to see happen is that all the fans here who say they're out for the season because of their play tonight actually believe that and don't come back. If you think they're that bad, fine. Stick to your word and stay the hell away. It's bad enough watching them lose like this when you know what their potential is. The last thing I'm looking for here is a Death Watch.

I never said I don't wanna watch them, I will continue watching every game like I've been doing for the last 10 years (I moved here from Europe). I guess it's my bad for expecting a complete game from this team

[10/13 GDT: Red Wings, 2 at Sabres, 6]

Congrats, you're not spoiled! No, you're something else much worse than spoiled.

I've had season tickets for the last 8 years, I have the right to be frustrated with their play. And by phoning it in, I thought you meant giving up, not losing on purpose, I'd have to be retarded to actually think that. I sure hope they will right the ship, but so far this team has disappointed, let's be realistic about it.

[10/13 GDT: Red Wings, 2 at Sabres, 6]

In other words you think they're phoning it in.

Pretty much. I'm not a spoiled fan because I'm used to them winning. They're the ones that made all the fans have certain expectations. Look at how they played in Sweden, falling asleep as a team because they think they're entitled to their wins just cause they're the Red Wings. I'd like to see them have 60 minute effort on a regular basis.

[10/13 GDT: Red Wings, 2 at Sabres, 6]

Definition of a spoiled fan.

This happens less to us than to anyone else. And we act like we're the Atlanta Thrashers.

Yes, the loss hurts. Grow the f*** up. It happens.

Again, I understand teams lose and I accept that, but I'd like to see that they actually try out there. I'm not a spoiled fan, I just expect better from this team and I'm sure Babcock is too

[10/13 GDT: Red Wings, 2 at Sabres, 6]

Lol 5-1..

Im glad we're losing. I hope we self-destruct and realize how ******* terrible we've played the past two seasons.

LMAO !!! What a joke, we only won the cup and were one game from winning it again in the last 2 seasons

[10/13 GDT: Red Wings, 2 at Sabres, 6]

We earned our wins especially that WAS game.

I swear, one loss and this forum turns suicidal.

It's not the fact that they lose, it's the way they lose. This is really pathetic

[10/13 GDT: Red Wings, 2 at Sabres, 6]

Ozzie, WTF

[GDT: 10/8 - Blackhawks, 2 @ Red Wings, 3]

Can our powerplay look worse?

[MVP - Ozzie or Hank]

Ozzie

[Thoughts from the Penguin's Nest]

In all sincerity I would like to express my thanks to everyone here for there tolerance of alternative viewpoints- as painful as it is at my lowest point in ths postseason. I hope you all are still as gracious after Pens win this thing in Detroit. Great series.

You sir are delusional

[Thoughts from the Penguin's Nest]

-- I have a feeling Staal's shorthanded goal last night may have grabbed not just the game, but the series for the

Pens. That's just a feeling. At that point, Detroit went from being up a goal and on the power play, to seeing the

lead go up in smoke. The mental letdown can't be overestimated.

--I feel the pressure is more on the Wings to win Saturday Night, Datsyuk or no Datsyuk. Detroit must hold here or

face returning on the verge to the Igloo which has not been kind to them -- especially Osgood of all people. Should

the Pens lose they're on the verge, but at least they know they get the next one at home.

--This series is just what a lot of us hoped -- including a lot of arguing back and forth about who's gotten the breaks,

who's got the calls (or not) etc. etc. etc. Also accusations of cheap shots by both sides. Last year lacked the heat,

as it was really about the aw-shucks-glad-to-be-here Pens looking up at the veteran champs.

--Datsyuk's back -- but maybe Sid is too, after finally breaking the scoring drought.

--For some reason the name "Fedotenko" keeps popping into my head for Saturday.

Anyway, I'm sure a lot of you here will disagree with my point of view. Please feel free to fire away...

FAIL

[WCF GAME 4 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 4]

I wish to god Kronwall or Stuart would ******* knock Matt Cooke out with a body check.

I've been praying for that since game 1, but no one's listening

[WCF GAME 4 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 4]

This is whats gonna happen. Were gonna score to cut it to 4-3 and then nothing.

I don't even need to watch because i've seen it so many times.

Sad but true

[WCF GAME 4 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 4]

He said it was because Ab's wasn't very good on the Wing, much better at Center, and Leino brought more to the table as a Winger. At least I'm pretty sure what he said this morning/afternoon.

Well then he's getting outcoached, cause Leino hasn't been bringing s*** to the table

[WCF GAME 4 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 4]

We're still winning the Cup, guys! CALM DOWN!! Let them have their (very) shotty games. We had a few against Anaheim. Let em play poorly.. rest up.. and come out FIRED UP in Detroit so the Pens don't even know what HIT them. Let Dats rest some more so he will be even more of a firecracker when he comes out. It'll be OKAY.

Well at least the glass is half full for someone !!

[WCF GAME 4 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 4]

I'd love to know Babcock's reasons why he took Abdelkader out. At least he brought some energy to this team while Leinoand Maltby have been invisible

[Is it too crazy to think]

I used to think the NBA was laughable for its referees, now after watching these playoffs (not only the Wings games), I'm beginning to think the NHL takes the cake when it comes to inconsistent and biased refereeing. What is a penalty in the first period, for some reason is not called in the third, depending on the score. I'm sick of it and it's ruining this great game. However, I honestly don't think that there are referees fixing games for personal gain. Can you imagine the fallout if someone has evidence of league officials tampering with the referees to extend or influence a series ???

[I love Hockey Fans.]

What a refreshing post...looking forward to your next column

[For all those whining...]

Priceless

[Is Osgood on the verge of a meltdown?]

This got as far as 5 pages ??? Wow