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Read an article on my phone in some news app so not sure where the link is for it but it mentioned a trade of Eberle from Edmonton for Mrazek as he is behind our goalies. The basic thinking was they have many skilled forwards, but need a goalie and Eberle is who they would get the most return for. Could be interesting.

No way in hell I want Diving Devin Setoguchi anywhere near this team. I still remember him flopping all over the ice that one year in the playoffs. It's been said before that he even dives in shootouts! But some size couldn't hurt. I'm in Vancouver and they talk about Kassian all the time on Team 1040 and I'm not sure he could be had for cheap. At least if you believe the guys on the radio that is. There was talk at length of someone trying to sign him and paying the compensation.

I'm not sure what it is with people on these boards wanting to pick up Vancouver's scraps. But I would pass unless it cost us literally nothing.

I agree, I was readying an interesting article awhile back that said something like Franchise players don't get picked outside the top four picks. The chances of finding one outside the top two picks are slim at best.on a good success rate. Everything after that is more luck based. Same article also mentioned how Detroit has been the best franchise of the last decade. Granted the article was a few years old.

Why not ask Edmonton too. There are teams that have picked early for years and never got out of the basement and perhaps never will. On a different point, In the playoffs anything can happen. A injury or two can decimate a teams chances. One player getting hot can vastly improve them. Calgary went deep, Edmonton too, who would have though Carolina would win a cup for christ sake?

I would just like to ask why you think Buff is Lazy, a coach killer or a questionable team mate? Or is that just your opinion? Statistically Buff is better than Edler this year, I haven't looked at years past. He is a right shot, physical and puts up points. Edler has a NTC to boot, Buff has one too but he can only select 5 teams he won't go to.

I find it comical that I suggest big Buff and get he sucks at d, is fat and lazy but then it's suddenly lets get Edler who sucks at D, has worse stats and is prone to mental mistakes but hey at least he isn't fat. Edit - Oh and Buff is a righty to boot.

I mentioned we would have to work on the +/- . But how much of that is due to the team he is on? And for a fat guy he is outscoring our D men, out hitting our D men, plays more ice time than any Detroit player... so ya. I would think the fitness level of our players would rub off on him but he seems to be doing okay.

Dustin Byfuglien Age 28 Height: 6-5 Weight: 265lbs Shoots: R NHL Seasons: 8 GP - 55 G - 12 A - 28 Pts - 40 +/- -16 Hits - 130 On contract till 2015-16 for 5.2 Million. I'm not going to state what goes the other way as i don't want to speculate, but he is a player that I think could fit. Obviously we have to work on that +/-. He is under 30, shoots right, he is big, he has twice the hits of any Detroit dman. As demonstrated in the playoffs when Chicago won the cup the one year with him he can put up points and he absolutely dominated in front of the net in the playoffs that one year so he is versatile. http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/tag/dustin-byfuglien/

id toy with the idea of Byfuglien, put him back on forward and let him be net presence like he was back in the day with Chicago. All depends on the specifics. I think we need to add some size and perhaps grit. I doubt anything will happen though till the off season.

Edler was injured

I like what I just saw from the Zetter, franzen, nyquist line.

i'm just going to say it. It's highly unlikely anything will happen via trade that will impact this team enough by itself to put us over the top due to the salary cap. If the players we have don't start playing better we are not destined for the cup final and sadly we should realize no major change will happen till the off season when the cap hopefully goes up and we shed some contracts. It's that simple, but keep dreaming. Gives us something to do.

I blame you!!!

During the game tonight they said that he is in GR for a 3 game conditioning stint.... That is good news. I have no link to back this up though.

I understand hockey and don't share the same opinion as you, it's just your opinion which is shared by some but not all. I think you meant to say he doesn't make us better. But my counter point to that would be that he was second in scoring in the playoffs last year. People who can't skate or shoot don't outscore Pavel Datsyuk.

I won't argue that point as it has some merit. I'm just trying to say that you can't sit here and say 100% that this was a terrible signing cause no one really knows. After the year you can reflect back and pass your judgement.

Of course not. But at least he has a playoff history. Some go to the playoffs on a regular basis and prove nothing / do nothing.

Do you have a crystal ball? Are you a GM with a decade + knowledge or a coach who is regarded as one of the best in hockey? Oh.... I didn't think so. You just assume having Cleary on the team isn't the best for the team but to be honest no one can say really what is best. We can only take a guess. See above. Personally I don't care if he puts up 0 points in the regular season if we hit the playoffs and he can be as effective as he was last year. Playoff performers are worth every penny. But yes the roster limit does suck. I'll wait to see what happens, but i'm not gonna moan and cry about it before we know what happens. Then again thats what forums are for... to moan, cry, pretend to be a GM, pass judgement.... you know. Otherwise this place would be dead.

My concern would be that he takes a dip. He isn't playing the elite level talent now so I see his skills potentially degrading faster. Then again I could be wrong.

This is not Vancouver. So no he won't get his # retired here.

Thanks for the info. Always interesting to see the numbers.

Perhaps i should have said virtually nothing.

I certainly hope so as I don't want to lose those guys for nothing.