jason_0931

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  1. I think Mickey Redmond said it the other night that the first night a player is back from an extended injury they are playing on adrenaline and usually plays great! Given Jason Williams was back and this was his 2nd/3rd game, should he have been participating in the shootout versus the Penguins?

    I hate to question Babcock's decision, considering he has been a welcome surprise to me in Detriot, but I would not have used him. I would have gone with either Bertuzzi or Filpulla in stead and if it went multiple rounds then I might have used Williams.

    Thoughts?


  2. Leino will sit out tonight game and Dereck Helm gets inserted. I think this is a necessary move considering Zetterberg is back in.

    I think all to often people on message boards forget that players have different roles on the team and you can't insert a Leino in for a guy like Kopecky or Maltby! Leino in not a 4th line grinder. If you want Leino to get NHL ice time you have to sit someone from the 3rd line. So that is Samuelsson, Fillpula or Cleary. In my mind its Samuelsson that needs to go bye bye!!!

    Thoughts/reactions?

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  3. Clearly there is a problem with the wings. Hence the reason Babcock has mixed up the lines. However, I don't think we can point to one problem, but I think it is the team as a whole is not playing very well. I would like to see what the puck possession time of the 2008-2009 season compared to the same number of games last year. Also, I have always thought that shots on goal and goals against and save percentage should be based on quality chances. When I look at between period stats the quality chances we have in most cases seems to be about the same as the number of quality chances we give up. So the question is are we giving up more or less quality chances? If we are giving up more then the problem is team defense. If we are giving up the same, but our goalies are giving up more goals then it is a goalie problem. If both is happening, which is my theory, then the problem is the team is playing poorly and they need to get their heads out of their collective asses and start playing better hockey! Anyway you look at it the team needs to do something to get it going again.

    One last thing, you can't bring up Howard since we have cap issues as is. Unless Osgood or Conklin goes down with an injured oor one of them gets traded or put on waivers these are the goalies that will lead us in the playoffs.

    This team can and will win, I wasn't a Babcock fan when he was hired, but this is his time to shine as well!


  4. I agree, it does seem like a large majority of the time when the other team dumps the puck in they come up with it, even when our guys get there at the same time or before. All 5 guys on the ice have seemed very content to allow the other team's puck retrieval and perimeter passing, but then they don't shut the middle down either - not a recipe for success.

    I do agree the team looks soft. The definitely need to forecheck better and do a better job in front of their own net. I plan to keep an eye on tonights game to see if they continue to with north/south game I am referring to.

    Like I siad, it might just be me, but their puck possession style seems to have changed a little bit.


  5. The transition game hasn't been has stellar as it was last year, but IMO its far from the problem. They are still getting the puck forward and netting bunches of goals. The problem is the ill-timed passing some defensemen have been making. I can't remember a season where a Wings D-man has already made as many lazy or blind passes that results in an odd man rush including a 1-0 breakaway with our goaltender. Lebda, Lilja and Rafalski have all made a bunch of these and its truly kept the defense on its heals, which is not how the Red Wings play.

    Couple that with zero sustained forecheck and you've got a recipe where our defensemen are getting worn out playing behind the boards all night. That being said, our D-men also need to be way more physical with the opposition. I know Kronwall and Stuart are pacing themselves so they don't wear themselves out before April, but the fact that Stuarts big hit against the Penguins was the first one from the Wings I can think of this year is unbelievable. Our D-men are being pushed off the puck in the defensive zone and that's another recipe for disaster.

    Again, bottom line is this team needs to *work* harder. If they do, no team in the NHL can match their skill and the Red Wings hockey we've all come to expect will be stronger than its ever been given the amount of talent on this roster.

    I must respectfully disagree with you that their transition game is the problem. I think their defense stems from their puck possession. When don't move the puck east/west and wait for their opportunities they force the puck north/south. This causes turn-overs in our own zone when the opposition is forechecking. Look at most of the goals the Penguins scores from those mistakes. If Detroit moved it east/west first they might have avoided these costly mistakes. I wish NHL.com had a database that fans could log into so we can run some simple statistics, like puck posession and goals against or % of time scores on a 5 on 3, etc.

    I really believe the Wings have gotten away from what makes them so good!


  6. It just occured to me that the past few weeks the wings are not moving the puck back and forth between the defenseman. Typically the wings use this system to help create a better transition game by getting a forward open and get the opposition to back off or shift their coverage. I don't notice them doing that. They seem to be forcing the play forward too quickly. I wonder if their puck possession time is down so far this year?

    Is it just me or are others seeing the same thing? Anyone else see anything else the wings are doing that could explain the poor team defense?


  7. What they are saying is that if GM closes, a lot of people will lose their jobs, therefore they can't come to the games, therefore there will be more empty seats in the JLA, therefore the Ilitch family has to take it to another place where people can afford to the games.

    So guys, when you are looking for your next car, buy American! :colorbounce:

    I am tired of hearing people say this. Build a better product that retains as much resale value as a foreign car and I will buy American.

    There are too many problems with the way the big three have conducted themselves the last 10 years. I don't owe them anything, least of all my buisness.


  8. The question ins't the calls the refs make as much as I am concerned the team is not playing well defensively. Obviously they have the offensive talent to stay with the teams in the NHL, but the past couple of years how many times have you seen this team with some many games were they win or lose when they score more than 3 goals. I mean the other team is putting the puck in the net way to often for me.

    I am not saying it is Ozzy or Conklins fault. On the contrary I think they have both played really well so far, with maybe a few lapses in judgement. However, the team giving up the chances they are and the odd man rushes and the give aways in their own zone, just seems unlike the wings the past few years. I remember hearing Scotty Bowman on the radio indicate that you can start to judge your team after the first 10 games or so and know where you are at. We are 10 games in and our record is good, but the scores are not. I would say we are on the brink of a major loosing streak that could last a long time. The question will be based on the wings first 10 games do they look like they can climb out of it quickly?

    I would say I have faith in Babcock and the coaching staff, but I would say this loosing streak could be a long one!

    Go wings!!!!!


  9. I guess I am surprised that people say Quincey is not a good player, when in reality he is a good player. Every time he was called upon in the past two years to perform he has done a very good job. The problem with his development has been ice time in the NHL. So if we have 3-4 defensement ready to crack the line-up in the next couple of years what is the plan at that point? Whom do you remove from the team? If you say Chelios I would say that he does not play in every game during the regular season anyways and why would you bring up and Ericsson or a Kindl just to have them sit. I was thinking lets trade a lebda or lilja for a draft pick or two. Then insert Quincey into their spot and then next year offer Quincey up for a trade for more picks. Then insert a Ericsson and Kindl, etc. The point I was making was giving up something to get something in return. If next year Ericsson is ready, but we hold on to Chelios and Lidstrom whom do we give up then? Is it still Lebda or Lilja and if so why not do it the year before and have Quincey be the trade offer next year as an established NHL defenseman or at least gotten a 5 or 6 rounder for him.


  10. he was given enough chances to prove himself... im suprised he was even picked up, but it was in fact the kings

    I don't think it was a matter of he did not prove himself, but that there was no room. However, if we would have traded a player like Lebda or Lilja instead of Quincey maybe Quincey could have made a roster spot and we would have gotten something in return. I guess that is what gets me with the waiver wire, is that you could loose a player and get nothing in return. It could happen with Aaron Downey or D-Mac too.


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  12. I realize there are a few different discussions going on but I think some of the people defending Kronner inadvertently scoring off Hall's skate support my point.

    I never said anything stupid like "we don't need Nick Lidstrom", in fact I actually pointed out that I wasn't talking about Lidstrom.

    I was talking about Kronwall and anticipating that it is pretty likely he will get better in a two years. At that point, we will have two more years with Stuart, three more with Rafalski, and another stud Swede defenseman in Ericsson likely rounding out our top four. With that in mind, and the improbability that Detroit will lose the team defensive game, will we really be that bad off in our own end?

    I could care less about that play. IMO the puck getting into the net was not solely on the shoulders of Kronwall. Besides it is not like Lidstrom or Chellios has never had the puck go off of themselves and into the net. It is called bounces not going your way.

    Having said that, I am NOT changing my mind about trading Kronwall. He has had one good year, he will get lots of trade value and we have other talent in the minors waiting for a chance, we could loose for nothing in return. Kronwall is not the end all be all, just another role player.


  13. I say he's always been a beast of a defenceman and whoever thought we should trade him was a total retard.

    I still think we should trade him, now more then ever!!!!!

    I will only change my mind after 2 to 3 more seasons after he continues to put up points, dulls out big hits, stays healthy and doesn't get out of position too often. So far he has done that for 1 season and 1 season only. I would trade him when his value is high and get some solid draft picks for the future or maybe a young goalie for the future since Howard may never be ready.


  14. Why should people agree with you? Jiri will get his name on the cup and get a ring for this year for being apart of management. If he weren't apart of management, and didn't already have his name on the cup from 2002, i could see your point, but even then its a long stretch because it happened 2 years prior. Its not like it was in 98 when they were playing for Vladdy.

    My point is this, I understand the injury occured in 2005, but if his was under contract thru 2008 then, in my opinion, I think he should get his name on the cup as a player. Simply because he would have been apart of this team this season. If Jiri was still playing we would not have needed to pickup Stuart at the deadline. The fact that he got his name on the cup in 2002 is not relevant to my question.

    Now if Jiri's contract would have needed to be extended for him to be apart of the current roster then I don't think he should get his name on the cup.


  15. I was thinking the other day, should Jiri Fischer get his name on the cup? I know the wings have the option to petition the league to have a players name added to the cup. This rule is in place if a player has a season ending injury and is not able to finish the season, his team can petition for his name to be added to the cup!

    I know his heart problems started in November of 2005, but that was only 2 seasons ago and I can't remember how long he was under contract for. According to nhl.com he is no longer listed as a player in the league and the letsgowings.com site does not have a salary for him hitting the cap.

    So the question becomes should the wings petition the league do to a career ending heart problem?

    I say yes, or at the very least get a Stanley Cup ring from the wings, because I feel he would have been apart of this team had the injury not occured!


  16. Agreed. I'd be willing to part with Filppula, Ericsson and a 2nd round pick for Hossa signed to a long term contract. I see comments that management has made Ericsson untouchable -I don't see the point in that when it boils down to trading for someone of Hossa:s calibre. He should be right up there alley, except he's not undersized.

    I am sorry guys, but I just would make that deal!!!! We are giving up to much of OUR future to secure a guy like Hossa and there is no guarantee he would sign a long-term deal ( I think he is signed for one more year after this). While he is a great player, he is not worth giving up Filppula, young guys and draft picks, too steep a price for me.


  17. See the thing is with that philosophy, the young guys don't get the in game experience with him. He can talk to them all he wants at practice but the young guys do so well on the ice with him. Plus he covers up for a lot of their mistakes.

    However having said that: I personally would rather see Lids and Lebda, Ralf and Cheli, Kron and Lilja.

    I will give you that, but I am not sure I want Lidstrom focusing on covering up Kronwall's mistakes. We need him to focus on big defensive plays, moving the puck up the ice and jumping into the play when possible.

    Plus Kronwall can learn from watching him from the bench!


  18. I don't blame Lilja, but he can't help the situation as he has his own issues. But I really think paring Kronwall with Lidstrom or Rafalski would really boost his confidence.

    I personally feel Kronwall needs to earn the honor to play with a Lidsstrom or a Rafalski and he definitely has not.


  19. Man I really do not like this kid especially after we paid him so much for his potential!

    He really is not good and has been a professional too long to make plays like that.

    We should trade him and move on to some new talent. Lebda is a much better defenseman that Kronwall!


  20. looking to get a Reebok 9k stick for my son, Ive seen it around the internet avg price for $229.00 anyone know if there is a less expensive store, or online store?

    thanks a bunch

    GO WINGS!!!

    try www.hockeyworld.com. They do not list a price, but call for one to see. They ship equipment from a warehouse in the Northeast.

    I had a really good experience with them and they treated me really well when I had a problem.