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The "If we don't score our team is totally f****d !" line

From a non-Eklund rumor site: According to sources in various NHL cities, these are the rumoured deals on the table for Peter Forsberg: Nashville has offered a 1st rounder, a 4th or 5th rounder and one of Ryan Parent or Cody Franson. Anaheim has offered Bobby Ryan and a 3rd rounder in 2008. Vancouver has offered Alexander Edler, one of their 2nd rounders in 2007 and another 2nd rounder in 2008. Detroit has offered a 1st rounder, Valteri Filppula and Igor Grigorenko. Atlanta has offered a 1st rounder, Ondrej Pavelec and Boris Valabik. http://brochuishockey.blogspot.com/. Foud it on the Flyers website...they aren't enamored with any of these deals. I would be upset if we paid that much for Forsberg, for the reasons that many doubters have already exhausted. Anyway, thoughts on this package?

Come on Eva, you can't look at Wisky and PSU's Bowl Wins to retroactively prove Michigan's case while ignoring Florida's post-season dismantling of OSU. Most of UM's arguments were about domination and who "the better team was". Last night proved that we never really know who the better team is unless they play. The voters reasoned that evaluating each team's resume of wins, while imperfect was the best way to do that. (As opposed to I think X team is great so there). So yes, on December 2nd, wins over LSU, Arky, Tennessee and Georgia looked better than UM's wins over ND, Wisky, PSU and loss to OSU. (yes, UF lost to Auburn by 10...but if you watched that game the final 6 were scored on a fumble return as time expired...as UF tried numerous laterals...hardly domination, but a loss nonetheless) Yes, its true that UF would have finished behind UM if USC had won, but that would have been more of a "who cares who is number 3 and number 4" lets just stick with the SQ. If anything, the voters were consistent. When they voted USC above UF and UM they basically said it wasn't about who you lost to (Oregon State was the worst of the three losses), who you beat is what matters, (Cal, Neb., Arky). After USC lost, the voters used that same criteria to elevate Florida. They just didn't take the time to order the three teams according to that the first time. Yeah, thats imperfect and has its flaws, but is anybody willing to say thats worse criteria than the "Michigan would beat Florida by 6 points so they should get a re-match". argument? Especially after the bowl games?? You are welcome to use Bowl Games to make UM's wins over Wisky and PSU stronger, and thats fine...but that means that UF gets to claim its dismantling of OSU to strengthen its resume. Even still, I think FL still gets the edge. As for the game itself.... Urban Meyer did a phenomenal job and totally outclassed Jim Tressel. No arguments there. But to say it was "just about coaching" and OSU having an "off night" demeans Florida's dominance. Troy Smith wasn't making unforced errors...all of his mistakes were forced by UF's ferocious pass rush. UF didn't do anything really new on O or D...they did the same thing they did in the SEC ALL YEAR LONG and whipped the number 1 team in the nation. You may say "those personal foul penalities on special teams" field position etc....just remember that first penalty saved a James TD return right after Ginn's score.... Big 10 vs. SEC Above all else College Football is about Coaching, emotion and talent. what makes the SEC the toughest conference IMHO opinion is the conference's depth and the emotion that the teams play with each and every week. UF won alot og games when the other team was emotionally jacked and they weren't...thats the sign of a great team. OSU had a chance to prove that last night and they got railed. I think The reason UF struggled in the middle of the season can be attributed to the grind of the schedule and the great speedy defenses they played and the mistakes those D's forced (penalties, turnovers). People will talk about that 51 day layoff hurting OSU and it did...but what it really did was help Florida. It gave them time to get healthy, recharge their batteries and focus. OSU wins this game if its played December 9th, not necessarily b/c they are a better team, but bc they were much fresher. UF's schedule took a much larger toll on them than OSU's took from theirs. Like it or not, thats a reflection on the conferences. Finally...OSU and Big 10 Defenses are designed to defend Big 10 Offenses. (Power running games, PA passes). SEC Defenses are designed to defend SEC Offenses...(lots of speed, lots of blitzing) UF struggled against fast blitzing defenses...OSU played conservative Big 10 D against UF's great receivers and got torched. OSU's O excelled in the Big 10 against Defenses not suited to defend its athletic passing game (more so suitied to defending power running games ala UM). OSU's O met its athletic match in Fl's secondary and UF's offense beat down OSU's D. Simple as that. Also, while Michigan showed OSU's D was weak...UF didn't copy their gameplan. UF did was they did all season. Anytime a D holds the great OSU Offense under 100 yards of total offense...it cant be attributed to an off day for troy smith. FL is a deserving champion. period.