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While I tend to agree, Z's assist column has become scary-good (especially this year) and just look at how the numbers continue to rise every season. Now, if he gets on a line with someone that can distribute the puck his goal scoring will return and he'll be up there with anyone in the world points-wise. For the second time in this thread, show me proof. While Pavel is one of the best defenders in the world, he's won those Selke's over Z because the committee seems to put a premium on takeaways. Z consistently gets the tougher defensive assignments from Babs. Haha! Really? Are seriously using this in your argument? So what you're saying is that Z is more effective in the playoffs which is the first priority in Detroit. Gotcha! Sidenote: You can't remove stats from part of his playoff career to make a case for someone. You don't see me removing certain stats from Z that were less than Pavs'. Lastly, see my arguments above. I'm not about to repeat the areas Z excels in for sake of bandwidth.

I certainly hope that wasn't something new the Wings brass found out last night. If so, then a lot of our coaches/coordinators aren't doing their jobs.

Datsyuk is a better back checker: No he's not better deker: Agreed has a better wrist shot: Debatable one of the best passers ive ever seen: Becoming more debatable given Z's showings these past couple years He is a faster skater: Show me proof. he carries the puck in the neutral zone better: Agreed My Turn: Z is given the tougher assignments and is a better all-around defender. Z is a better back-checker. Z's off-ice commitment has been noted as one of best in the league. Z has a better slap-shot and backhander. All that being said, I do feel Dats is the biggest *all-around* talent in the league (more-so than Z). What I mean by that is he's close to Z in some categories (although still slightly behind) but the areas he excels in tend to be leaps and bounds above most any player in the world.

Why? Because you said so? Logic an lack of emotion actually makes for quite an evenly-matched debate. In what facet of the game? Datsyuk is superior to Z in certain areas. Zetterberg is superior to Dats in certain areas.

You're doing it wrong.

I don't think it does. It shows that the Wings are smart enough to know that the playoffs are right around the corner and grinding out a sure win in order to keep a 7-1 score in tact isn't as important as staying fresh. TBH, I just don't think teams see this as the Wings being vulnerable. Every professional on every team at the NHL level knows why those goals were scored and it wasn't because the Wings are vulnerable.

So much for following the Red Wings model.

While I hear what you're saying edi, I really don't think its that big of a deal simply because of the fact that it was 7-1 at the time. If the Wings were winning 4-1 or even as low as 3-1, we would've seen a much more engaged defensive effort toward the end. Unfortunately, with how poor our team-defense and goaltending (at times) have been this year, we tend to get more frustrated about these types of endings than other teams do.

I found it hilarious that Stoll was going apes*** in the box after he saw the replay of himself clearly high-sticking Filppula in the face. Seriously Stoll, WTF were you looking at that made you think you weren't as guilty as they come. Now, the Greene high-sticking call I'll agree. That was BS, but atleast justice was served and we didn't score on it.

Believe it or not, the only goal Z was on the ice for last night was the PPG to close out the 1st period. Coupled with the 3rd goal by the Kings, which was even strength and you get a -1.

Just like last years thread, I'll be making updates as fast as humanly possible. Feel free to post any transactions (regardless of team) within this thread and I'll add it to the chart as quickly as I can. LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 4:25 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (16 Total Transactions) Montreal Acquires: (G) Drew MacIntyre Atlanta Acquires: (D) Brett Festerling Minnesota Acquires: (D) Jeff Penner, (F) Mikko Lehtonen Boston Acquires: (G) Anton Khudobin Columbus Acquires: (F) Greg Moore, (F) Michael Chaput Philadelphia Acquires: (F) Tom Sestito Vancouver Acquires: (F) Maxim Lapierre Anaheim Acquires: (F) Joel Perrault, 3rd-Round Pick (2011) Vancouver Acquires: (F) Chris Higgins Florida Acquires: (D) Evan Oberg, 3rd-Round Pick (2011) Washington Acquires: (F) Jason Arnott New Jersey Acquires: (F) David Steckel, 2nd-Round Pick (2011) Calgary Acquires: (F) Fredrik Modin Atlanta Acquires: 7th-Round Draft Pick (2011) New York Rangers Acquire: (F) John Mitchell Toronto Acquires: 7th-Round Draft Pick (2011) Los Angeles Acquires: (F) Dustin Penner Edmonton Acquires: (D) Colten Teubert, 1st-Round Draft Pick (2011), Conditional 2nd-Round Pick (2011) Florida Acquires: (F) Sergei Samsonov Carolina Acquires: (D) Bryan Allen Anaheim Acquires: (F) Brad Winchester Boston Acquires: 3rd-Round Pick (2011) Chicago Acquires: (D) Chris Campoli Ottawa Acquires: 2nd-Round Draft Pick (2011), (F) Ryan Potulny Colorado Acquires: (D) Shawn Belle Edmonton Acquires: (D) Kevin Montgomery Phoenix Acquires: (D) Rostislav Klesla, (F) Dane Byers Columbus Acquires: (F) Scottie Upshall, (D) Sami Lepisto Washington Acquires: (D) Dennis Wideman Florida Acquires: (F) Jake Hauswirth, 3rd-Round Draft Pick (2011) Atlanta Acquires: (F) Radek Dvorak, 5th-Round Draft Pick (2011) Florida Acquires: (F) Niclas Bergfors and (F) Patrick Rissmiller February 27, 2011 (2 Total Transactions) Buffalo Acquires: (F) Brad Boyes St. Louis Acquires: 3rd-Round Draft Pick (2011) Anaheim Acquires: (F) Brian McGrattan, (D) Sean Zimmerman Boston Acquires: (F) Stefan Chaput, (F) David Laliberte February 26, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) New York Rangers Acquire: (D) Bryan McCabe Florida Acquires: (F) Tim Kennedy, 3rd-Round Draft Pick (2011) February 25, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Florida Acquires: (D) Alexander Sulzer Nashville Acquires: Conditional Pick February 24, 2011 (4 Total Transactions) Carolina Acquires: (F) Cory Stillman Florida Acquires: (F) Ryan Carter, 5th-Round Pick (2011) Montreal Acquires: (D) Brent Sopel, (F) Nigel Dawes Atlanta Acquires: (F) Ben Maxwell, 4th Round Pick Pittsburgh Acquires: (F) Alexei Kovalev Ottawa Acquires: Conditional 7th-Round Pick Anaheim Acquires: (G) Dan Ellis Tampa Bay Acquires: (G) Curtis McElhinney February 21, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Dallas Acquires: (D) Alex Goligoski Pittsburgh Acquires: (F) James Neal, (D) Matt Niskanen February 19, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Colorado Acquires: (D) Erik Johnson, (F) Jay McClement, Conditional 1st-Round Pick (2011 or 2012) St. Louis Acquires: (F) Chris Stewart, (D) Kevin Shattenkirk, Conditional 2nd-Round Pick (2011 or 2012) February 18, 2011 (6 Total Transactions) Tampa Bay Acquires: (D) Eric Brewer St. Louis Acquires: (D) Brock Beukeboom, 3rd Round Pick Carolina Acquires: 2nd-Round Pick (2012) San Jose Acquires: (D) Ian White Carolina Acquires: (D) Derek Joslin San Jose Acquires: Future Considerations Boston Acquires: (D) Tomas Kaberle Toronto Acquires: (F) Joe Colborne, 1st-Round Pick (2011), Conditional 2nd-Round Pick (2012) Boston Acquires: (F) Rich Peverley, (D) Boris Valabik Atlanta Acquires: (F) Blake Wheeler, (D) Mark Stuart Ottawa Acquires: (G) Craig Anderson Colorado Acquires: (G) Brian Elliott February 17, 2011 (2 Total Transactions) Anaheim Acquires: (F) Jarkko Ruutu Ottawa Acquires: 6th-Round Pick (2011) Montreal Acquires: (D) Paul Mara Anaheim Acquires: 5th-Round Pick (2012) February 15, 2011 (2 Total Transactions) Boston Acquires: (F) Chris Kelly Ottawa Acquires: 2nd-Round Pick (2011) Toronto Acquires: (F) Aaron Voros Anaheim Acquires: 7th-Round Pick (Conditional) February 14, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Philadelphia Acquires: (F) Kris Versteeg Toronto Acquires: 1st-Round Pick (2011), 3rd-Round Pick (2011) February 10, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Nashville Acquires: (F) Mike Fisher Ottawa Acquires: 1st-Round Pick (2011), Conditional 2nd/3rd-Round Pick (2012) February 9, 2011 (4 Total Transactions) San Jose Acquires: (F) Patrick Davis, (F) Mike Swift New Jersey Acquires: (F) Steve Zalewski, (D) Jay Leach Chicago Acquires: (F) Michael Frolik, (G) Alexander Salak Florida Acquires: (F) Jack Skille, (F) Hugh Jessiman, (F) David Pacan New York Islanders Acquire: (G) Al Montoya Phoenix Acquires: 6th-Round Pick (2011) Anaheim Acquires: (D) Francois Beauchemin Toronto Acquires: (F) Joffrey Lupul, (D) Jake Gardiner, Conditional 4th-Round Pick (2013) January 18, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) San Jose Acquires: (F) Ben Eager Atlanta Acquires: 5th-Round Pick (2011) January 13, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Dallas Acquires: (F) Mikhail Stefanovich Toronto Acquires: (F) Fabian Brunnstrom January 10, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) New York Rangers Acquire: (F) Wojtek Wolski Phoenix Acquires: (D) Michal Rozsival January 7, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Dallas Acquires: (F) Jamie Langenbrunner New Jersey Acquires: Conditional 3rd-Round Pick (2011) January 4, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Anaheim Acquires: (D) Nate Guenin Columbus Acquires: (F) Trevor Smith January 1, 2011 (1 Total Transaction) Tampa Bay Acquires: (G) Dwayne Roloson New York Islanders Acquire: (D) Ty Wishart

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 4:25 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (16 Total Transactions) Minnesota Acquires: (D) Jeff Penner, (F) Mikko Lehtonen Boston Acquires: G Anton Khudobin

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 3:44 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (15 Total Transactions) Montreal Acquires: (G) Drew MacIntyre Atlanta Acquires: (D) Brett Festerling Got that as well. However, TSN states its a 2011 pick.

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 3:33 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (14 Total Transactions) Columbus Acquires: (F) Greg Moore, (F) Michael Chaput Philadelphia Acquires: (F) Tom Sestito Thank you. Updated.

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 3:24 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (13 Total Transactions) Vancouver Acquires: (F) Maxim Lapierre Anaheim Acquires: (F) Joel Perrault, 3rd-Round Pick (2011) Vancouver Acquires: (F) Chris Higgins Florida Acquires: (D) Evan Oberg, 3rd-Round Pick (2011)

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 3:20 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (11 Total Transactions) Washington Acquires: (F) Jason Arnott New Jersey Acquires: (F) David Steckel, 2nd-Round Pick (2011) Calgary Acquires: (F) Fredrik Modin Atlanta Acquires: 7th-Round Draft Pick (2011)

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 3:12 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (9 Total Transactions) New York Rangers Acquire: (F) John Mitchell Toronto Acquires: 7th-Round Draft Pick (2011)

Not only that, I think GM's are making a stand. They're no longer going to be making overpriced trade after overpriced trade. This could set things up for a more active Deadline day next year since all GM's may now realize they don't have teams by their balls (unless they happen to be the LA Kings ).

Most. Boring. Deadline. Ever.

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 2:24 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (8 Total Transactions) Los Angeles Acquires: (F) Dustin Penner Edmonton Acquires: (D) Colten Teubert, 1st-Round Draft Pick (2011), Conditional 2nd-Round Pick (2011)

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 2:14 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (7 Total Transactions) Florida Acquires: (F) Sergei Samsonov Carolina Acquires: (D) Bryan Allen Anaheim Acquires: (F) Brad Winchester Boston Acquires: 3rd-Round Pick (2011)

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 1:56 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (5 Total Transactions) Chicago Acquires: (D) Chris Campoli Ottawa Acquires: 2nd-Round Draft Pick (2011), (F) Ryan Potulny

Cheers

LAST UPDATED (2-28-2011, 1:35 PM ET) February 28, 2011 (4 Total Transactions) Colorado Acquires: (D) Shawn Belle Edmonton Acquires: (D) Kevin Montgomery TBH, I have a feeling its not going to be a ton better as the day goes by. As you said, with all the big names that have already moved and the ridiculously high prices it's pointing to be a slow day.