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I agree, the Red Wings, even back in the day, always had trouble in the first round. If they get back to basics, and play their hearts out ( that means skate fast, and start hitting hard on the forechecks, and making coordinated attacks on the Nashville Net) friday night, then they should be able to get past these players for Nashville. The parity in the league that bothers me the most is the one these so-called referees bring to the game, I for one am absolutely nauseated at their unprofessionalism and inconsistency, so much so, I won't go on.........I would burst out into a string of expletives that this board has never seen before. Words to Wings: Settle down, control the puck, forecheck hard, and get Franzen and Homer in front of the net a lot more than you have.

Here is the 2nd video courtesy of tsn.ca that supposedly changed the ruling on wronger: Link to video: i apologize if someone else already posted this, just thought i would help out here.

I totally agree, I avoid being sarcastic for that reason, and are some posters ever serious, I mean really.....whoaaa. I have also learned you need to spell out all aspects of your post or someone will jump one sentence or even word, take everything out of context, and make a federal case about it. But, I still like em, and its fun to interact with you guys. PS: to the LGWer's that are worried, relax, take it easy, i really believe that the defensive injuries, (cheli's excluded) are being exagerated on purpose to both showcase our young prospects to other teams and their GM's (think HOSSA TRADE GUYS), or whatever other trade has in mind, and they are also being thrown out there for the wings coach's, management, etc. to assess how good they really are at this point). It's just my opinion.

I like Stuart also and as I stated in an earlier post I feel he will be Holland's number one target for a defensemen. PS: I wouldn't rule out Miroslav Satan of the Islanders as a likely pick-up by Holland either.

Fedotenko I definitely would like to see coming to the wings, Nagy........ahhh no thanks.Prospal just fits Holland's normal operating mode, veteran, only makes 1.9 mil per year could be had for less on a 2 year extension, and has really improved his two way game this year. On defensemen, I wouldn't rule out Boyle of TB as on his list, not sure myself about him being the best Kenny could do though.

I totally agree with you, that was the point of my first post. Leftwinger never responded to my reply that clarified my position. You seem very knowledgeable to me. What do you think of my position that Kenny will most likely trade for PRospal of TB and Stuart of LA? Keep up the good posts.

I was really responding to the person I quoted in my post, as far as the original post is concerned, I really question its authenticity........too detailed, when $$'s are mentioned in a rumor for a 2 year contract, sounds fishy too me. Sorry for the confusion and I can understand why you read my post the way you did. If you want to know what I really think will happen read my last paragraph, if unsure, go back and read it again. Cheers!!

Sounds good to me, but what makes you so certain its only Detroit? I personally feel that the sticking point is that Holland would want to have a 1-2 year extension with Detroit locked-up as part of the trade, and that is something Sundin won't probably do. I also think in the back of my mind that most likely Detroit will trade with Tampa Bay for Vinny Prospal and with the KIngs for Stuart. Hossa will go to some team that spends the moon and with Forsberg out of the picture now that could be a lot of teams, but not Detroit. Also, I don't think Sundin will go anywhere.......he will stay in Toronto.

For a young, inexperienced goalie, Howard played a very good game, and um............he faced more than 0 shots I believe, but thats ok, we'll teach you how to count later. BTW that's your course after Hockey Analysis 101, which, from what I hear you are failing.

I agree that Quincey did alright last year, however, my persional belief is that the Red Wings management is "showcasing him" for a potential trade. I figure Hudler, Quincey, and Kopecky are all on the table to swing whatever deal Kenny can manage. If Detroit gives out any picks they will be 09' picks as part of any package. IMO Players Detroit is most likely to acquire, Prospal-Tampa Bay, Campbell- Buffalo, Fedorov-CBJ, Stuart- La KIngs and believe it or not Afinigenov (sp?)-Buffalo. Again, IMO. Anyone agree?

Not categorizing anyone, did wing's management want him?, coach?, in numerous articles it was mentioned how numerous wing's fans wouldn't mind his presence on the wings....he is swedish.. big physical wing, puck-handler and scorer, but his health is always mentioned as a catch. I guess your question needs clarification, at least for me, on this forum I have seen mixed emotions about him, if that is what you are driving at. Why take it personally, it is not personal at all. Chill out, and cheers!

I agree, he is, like it or not, exactly the type of defensemen Detroit is looking for and needs. Whether he would be willing to come to the wings is a good question, I have not seen one of the old AV's from the rivalry days come to the wings, it could be Detroit doesn't want them or they don't want to come. Personally, I feel that old rivalry has largely subsided and should be a non-issue now, I say sign him, but only if he really wants to come to Detroit. Its amazing how many Wing's fans would take a healthy Foppa, he was on AV's at that time too, and not want Foote. He is consistent as heal, hits hard, and isn't afraid to mix it up. [u]Get er done Kenny, if he really wants to be a wing.[/u]

Are you a moderator? I sometimes wonder who died and put you in charge of threads? In reply to original poster, I believe Sammy would be good trade bait, and yes, almost all the wings had a bad night.

I believe your sig is right on......"caustic"......, I agree with you a fair amount of the time, just not how you react to some posters emotional posts with even more emotional posts. Pot calling kettle black isn't it??

Thanks for being courteous in your response to my idea. My idea was to use trade bait, not draft picks, that I honestly believe Holland is very dedicated to not giving up anyway, at least not first rounders. One poster said we could debate this for days, and he is right about that, no question. Isn't that the purpose of a thread, though? I have been reading the "ducks fan forum" and LA Times links to get a feel for what the opposition is thinking, and I concluded that whether Selanne and/or Niedermeyer come back is what is driving Burke absolutely crazy. He knows Penner is a "gem" just not polished enough yet, he wants to win the cup again, one more year with those vets and he stands a good chance, if they get past the wings So, what I was saying was go after him when Burke is against the wall when one of those vets or better yet both decide to come back for one more year. I get the impression Penner is wanting his just due and is very receptive to an offer, especially from a team like the Red Wings. As far as trade bait is concerned, I am not sure who I would want to give up. Thats why appealed to the general forum for ideas. Any ideas, guys and gals???

As we stand, if we keep the roster the way it is, we 43' date='July 7, 2007 - 05:28PM' post='1119718']would definitely be a good team. Winning the central division is a lock. A number 1 in the west is a probably going to happen, and we also are probably going to win a playoff series again. But people are underestimating the impact Todd Bertuzzi would have had this season and in the playoffs. Im assuming he played at 60% during his time as a Red Wing. Also, he hasnt skated much in the past 3 years; suspension, lockout, injury. With a full offseason, training camp, Bertuzzi will be a top tier player in this league and we coulda had a bargain. Instead Anaheim gets him and is even better. In order to stick with Anaheim in the playoffs we are going to need to be able to score more goals. They already have better goaltending, they can match us on defense, and whats more, offense is arguably their strength. Bertuzzi McDonald Perry Getzlaf Kunitz Penner All of which are big, phyisical, talented hockey players who are capable of scoring 25 plus goals. All we have is Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Holmstrom. And Holmstrom is one dimensional, those players are not. Furthermore, Bertuzzi was a gamble, but if it had panned out he was a player that would have put us over the top to have a GREAT chance of winning the cup. He was a perfect fit and we blew it. Now that he's lost, we should gamble with Peter Forsberg. Because again, when healthy he has the talent to be an elite player in this league, and we need an elite player to contend with Anaheim. If Forsberg does get hurt. Then whatever, we wouldnt have won without him anyways. It's the same gamble baseball teams make when trading their prospects at the deadline. I believe Forsberg is a one year contract possibility However, this sounds much better.>>. If Selanne resigns with Anaheim, the ducks have some cap room now, not much, but some and they will close to being against a wall. Burke's concern is future contracts in 2 & 3 years when they will have a considerable amount of players coming up for contract. A situation I believe favors Detroit- time, money, and a certain restricted free agent named Dustin Penner, I firmly believe, is what Holland and company may well be looking hard at. I believe this kid is going to be a very special power forward for years to come. IMO he is both a Babcock and Holland type player. HMMMMM Sooo, Anaheim's Burke doesn't really want to sign Penner to a long term contract, but, he has threatened to match any offer for him, Kenny offers trade bait (you fill in who you think here) to satisfy Burke, and offers Penner a 5-6 year contract at 3.5-4 million per year. I would do it in a heartbeat, depending on trade bait. Besides, Burke has raided the hell out of the Redwings, time for some PAYBACK!! What do you guys think????

I agree. If Selanne resigns with Anaheim, the ducks have some cap room now, not much, but some, but they won't have much in 2 years when they will have a considerable amount of players coming up for contract. Time and a certain restricted free agent named Dustin Penner, I firmly believe, is what Holland and company may well be looking hard at. I believe this kid is going to be very special power forward for years to come. Babcock and Holland type player. HMMMMM Sooo, Anaheim's Burke doesn't really want to sign Penner to a long term contract, he has threatened to match any offer, Kenny offers trade bait (you fill in what you think here) to satisfy Burke, and offers Penner a 5-6 year contract at 3.5-4 million per year. I would do it, depending on trade bait. What do you guys think????

I couldn't agree more. It seems like Russian players are only motivated by "money", they really don't play with any real intensity, unless there is $$$'s involved. That being said, I believe Rats will have a good playoffs. Why? Because he is an UFA come summer, this is purely the $$$ motivator. I seriously doubt the Redwings will resign him, he will want to much, and off he goes (ala Sergei Fedorov). Color RATS gone, come summer.