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Cap to go up by $3 million next year Which is enough money to sign Cleary....problem solved....

Because there is no need to carry 2 enforcers on a team.

After today I say there is no freaking way the WIngs should let him go.... But if he wants the big $$$ which I cant really blame him for there is nothing to do...I wouldn't give up Lids Datsyuk or Hank to keep Danny but I certainly want him there as well.

CAn't from Rochester NY but I will go see him on the 10th here in Rochester!!! At first I was skeptical of the Wings need for him on the line-up but my emotions are overcoming my logic and I say screw Downey and Bring back Mac

I agree with you conceptually and with the fact that I haven't seen him at all this year so I'm not sure how he would do.

I hope that you are right.

Filpulla, an RFA at the end of the season.

Its not no reason HC....there has been legitamate talk about it in the media and hollland said So I am a bit concerned about maybe not this year but next year as well

I didn't post it becuase I was in a rush to class this morning and it was on spectors and detroit free press so i figured it was news that was relatively out. I apologize for not providing the links but they are here: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...384/1053/SPORTS and http://spectorshockey.net/index.php?option...08&Itemid=9

Yeeeessss. One named Fedorov. Holland you will acquire the one they call fedorov. (Jedi mind trick in action) I thiink his leadership and playmaking ability would go well with Filpulla and/or Hudler

Kronner dodged a bullet here. Hope he isn't out much longer than the 10 days expected from this.

I think that this post best represents the point you are making. I was distracted from you're main point when you called everyone homers, but with the explanation that you provide here gives me the best picture of what you mean. I agree that you can't change what happened now and I agree that this rule should be changed. I think that that is the main point that most of us are trying to make. I don't not respect Selanne for this, Neidermayer a little but not too much, but I do think that it is an unfair scenario, which in turn I agree with you no change to what happened but change should come. As for a post by i think never forget mac, i agree that a deadline must be imposed. I know that there is a deadline on Restricted Free Agents, but I'm not sure if there is one on UFA's but there should be. I also think that there is a difference between somebody that is injured or playing as a UFA in another league like the AHL that are actively trying to EARN a job than somebody sitting around waiting for one, but making loopholes creates problems so there should be a set date. Same days for UFA's and RFA's...No signing, no playing....

GordieSid&Ted all you seem to do is chalk up the anger for these moves to homerism but lets look at the facts.... If the Ducks had brought these guys back from day 1 they would be over cap, or at least at a point with no flexibility. Now lets look at the Wings with Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Rafalski and soon to be Z all at HUGE contracts. Now lets assume that Cleary signs for 2.5 million after this year and then at the end of the 2008-2009 season when Zetterberg needs to re-sign they can't fit him under the cap with all these salaries so Lidstrom, doesn't know if he wants to play next season, and sits out despite being under contract, and then lets assume another player was a UFA (I checked no high profile player is but lets assume here), so with Lidstrom sitting out and our assumed UFA Sitting out the Wings re-sign Zetterberg and are safe under cap. Now the season is halfway done and Lidstrom decides he does want to play and his cap with is now only 3.7 million and the assumed UFA then decides to come back a month later at a low cap hit as well, and for the playoffs the Wings have managed to retain Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Rafalski, and the high profile UFA and are now no longer a good team in the playoff hunt but a playoff favorite.... Now as a fan to any other team in the league how would you feel about this....PISSED!!!!! That is why we are mad here because they went from a team that couldn't afford all of their players under cap, to a playoff contender with no Neidermayer or Selanne, to a team with both those guys, under cap, room for another trade at deadline, and a playoff favorite.... It has nopthing to do with homerism it has to do with s***ty loopholes that should be abolished, same a lamorello getting rid of Mogilny and Malakhov's contracts 2 years ago, its sneaky and kind of bogus,.

Good to hear that it is an old picture. Glad to see he really has ditched them. TO be honest I would emotionally love to see Mac back but realistically it is more for next year than this year I think.

good point. That is what makes me mad about these things. THe whole I might retire let me think about it until I know if you'll be in the playoffs thing is what bothers me as well.

This is bogus....I think it is kind of ridiculous that both Niedermayer and Selanne sit out for half a season and then MAGIC they are back.... It is kind of frustrating, and while I doubt it was planned for a man that whines about people violating him through the system, he found some awfully big loop holes to bring two of the better players in the league on his cap pushing team....

Just as an aside, this article talks about the Grinder cap being gone, yet we see him wearing it in all the pictures. Not starting to start anything with that, just noting that the article is slightly inaccurate.

I've been very torn in this whole scenario and have really tried to stay out of it. Do I want Mac to make it back to the NHL? HELL YES he deserves it. Do I want him back on the Wings. In my heart oh yes and in my head its a toss up. The only guy that I think he makes expendable is Downey, because they are about the same, but Babs really likes Downey a lot. Either way I hope he ends up in the NHL, and if its with Detroit I'll be thrilled, and if its with any other team I'll be just as happy for him as if it was with us, because he 100% deserves another shot.

In the sense of a traditionalist.... WHAT THE F***!!!!! However some of it sounds interesting, we'll see how it goes.

This is a hard one after the first 3: 1. Zetterberg 2. Cleary 3. Osgood 4. Lidstrom 5. Homer 6. Datsyuk 7. Filppula 8. Hudler 9. Draper 10. Lebda 11. Kronwall 12. Franzen 13. Chelios 14. Ellis 15. Maltby 16. Drake 17. Downey 18. Rafalski 19. Hasek 20. Kopecky 21. Meech 22. Lilja 23. Samuelsson However, some of these are moveable.... but not Sammy or Lilja or my top 4

Jesus you're right, he poked him in the eye with his first punch. I hate Pronger good thing Danny punched him in the face!

See I don't care if Downey is hurt in a fight...Cleary I am pissed over...

Who else is pissed that Cleary got hurt in that fight and isn't back... No Z...No Danny...No Good

THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING.... WAIT is that a shutout....THE SKY IS IN THE AIR AGAIN OH MAN....A SUPERHERO JUST PUT THE SKY BACK UP... Yeah as I said the other day 2 bad games by the whole team....Ozzie is not out of luck, talent, or wins...