Crashnburnluder

Does Rocco wear 91 regularly if so sign me up lol.... Other then that if we want a D we take Morrow... I believe....?

If morrow gets Drafted before we pick who do we take. I know we wanted a D but a lot of BPA forwards when we will pick.

FRICK!!!!!!

Yes, I agree a lot of times people don't want to part with prospects in our camp. I just like to look at it as more of "I know that this player is good now, compared to what this other player might or might not become."

I would... 1 of Richards or carter did not land them both Schenn and the 8th overall pick... Richards got them Schenn and yes I would give up schenn and Simmonds for Richards. Carter got them the 8th overall pick, with vorachk and a 3rd. So yes I would if it meant giving up schenn, 8th overall, simmonds a third and vorachk for both Richards and Carter at there cap hits...

Did he start it with his whole life story background followed by... "They are going to love this guy in Detroit"

Yes Jagr is going to come in and put up 20 points.... Cause guys like eaves and miller are all better then Jagr haha. I really don't understand why you aren't our GM obviously you know a he'll of a lot more then the guy with 4 cup rings 20 straight playoff apperences and countless division championships....

How much was Modano's contract again? I forgot he was supposed to come in and be a ppg player. 7 points in 20 games which included gelling with a new team and new system. I'm sorry he was a depth signing he was suppose to come in and try to put up around 40 points which if he got comfortable I bet could have happened. Also richards bieksa and Wiz... Do you want to be the one to tell lidstrom ge HAS to retire next season because we have all if our Money locked up on those guys and won't be able to give raises to kronwall and others. Yes we would all love all the best players in free agency but sorry richards 80-90 points for 7.5 million < jagr 40-50 points at 2 million... Which is nicer on the cap and allows us to fix our D situation while not handcuffing our self next season?

and how many of these over the hill players did we sign since the lock out... 2?? Modano and Drake, Modano suffered what was basically a season ending injury. He came back with no confidence and a bum wrist and your going to bunch together every future over 35 signing with that now? Im sorry but all these young players with skill and upside and that can put up 50+ points a season come with A LOT bigger price tag and are usually part of the long term picture. The problem being is we can only have so many long term picture players. Datsyuk, Franzen, Zetterberg, and probably a guy like Filppula will be out long term guys. Guys like Jarnkrok, Tatar, Pulkkinen, Shehan, Nyquist, and who ever else will slowly start to infiltrate our line up, but instead you guys want to start locking up these players that are going to be over paid in Free Agency when they are going to be asking for 3-4 year deals. No thank you. Ill take the guy that is 39, signing a one year deal for 2 million. THAT IS LESS THEN ERICCSON AND HUDLER! I dont care if the guy only puts up 30 points thats still better then what the other two are going to get paid and bring to the team. As for Jagr and his 2 million dollars or whatever he does with it, I could careless. Babcock and Holladn would not be pursuing a guy if he thought he was going to be too much of a Cancer to deal with. Simple as that. I think a guy like Babcock and Holland who have coached against him, scouted him and talked to him over the phone and spoken to his previous coaches know a hell of a lot more then a lot of people on Letsgowings.com? Im getting tired of the Over the Hill stuff, because its the guys that are over the hill that round out our roster, give us the experience we need in the playoffs and contribute in our cup runs, On and off the ice. Sorry last time I checked we won the cup 3 years ago, with a lot of over 35 year olds on the team, and last time i checked all those YOUNG teams that weren't a creation of the draft and sucked for years prior(Pittsburgh, Chicago) havn't been winning the cups lately. Yes Boston one, but I believe there was a certain Key "over the hill guy" that was a big influence to their roster. As did some others Conn Smythe winner Thomas (37) and Captain and Number 1 defenseman (34). Yes, we would all love the Marchands and Seguins but they come with a very Hefty price tag.

So how do you feel about Darren McCarty... He sure had his fair share of problems.. And great comparison. Compare Jagr with the guy that Suffered a severed tendon in his wrist. I guess your right its a carbon copy because we all figure that Jagr will come here and suffer a freak accident. Also where does it say he under produced in the KHL. I thought he was consistently in the top 10 over there and was on a PPG player... I dont know many player that but up 80 points in the KHL... Do you??? but don't let that stuff get in the way of your personal vendetta against him... definitely one of the nicest rosters I have seen yet...

oh yea.... Jagr will only have 15 points haha.... thats a joke... I feel if he puts up 30-40 points at 1.5 to 2 million we are getting our money worth. I don't really feel he is taking any time away from some prospect that has EARNED that ice time. I'm sorry but Emmerton will be on the roster due to being out of options. Mursak will finally get his chance to play and he brings a speed element and he is just replacing Draper. As far as Miller and Eaves go. I love them both but Eaves brings more to the table and a guy like Miller can be found else where down the road. This isn't some 4 million dollar contract that is going to restrict us from signing the UFA Defenseman that we want to sign. We wills till be able to accomplish everything we want to accomplish in Free Agency and add a little bit more of a kick to our Offense and PP for a low cost. I fail to see how that is a bad thing? crash

kinda sucks that we probably won't have an answer by today, but I'm thinking tom. it will finally be resolved.

I will say that if jagr actually does out hustle Hudler and play with more effort he better out score him by a decent margin. Jagr has a lot more skill, size and a better shot. He also would receive more ice time in that case. So in part in definitely expecting Jagr to out score Hudler, due to skill and size alone.

That would be a great IMO even if he only gets 35 points... At 1.5 I'll take it.... That's just as good as some one else on out roster.. Who I hope if he stays can turn it around...

The other thing I wante to add. I feel add Ericsson is already out of the question but you never know. He seems like he is getting a little greedy but I would still like him on the roster... Little over pay now could be good in the long run.

I believe konnan is right... That if u start the season overseas you can't just join the NHL mid season if you decide to rid your contract or your contract runs out. As for the next season if the player is a free agent they can sign anywhere, just like free agents can decide to go sign in Russia if they would like to... I believe I'm partially correct but there are probably a lot more details in play that I don't know about... Crash

Ahhh okay... Thanks konnan... Kinda the same but I understand what your saying... If a Nabokov had played out his contract and then tried to come over during the same season. The same result would have happened because he started the beginning of that season other then the NHL...

Dimaline, Sorry I didnt see this earlier but no he would not. The reason Nabokov had to pass through waivers is because he ended his contract early and was basically still contracted by his russian team. The difference with Jagr is he is currently a free Agent and doesn't have a contract with any team so he is free pickins. Crash

4 years ago still a no brainer... but no where near reality either... Jagr was close to a point a game 4 years ago. thats easily a 4-5 million dollar player now a days. 10 years ago he was a 100+ point scorer aka a 7-8 million dollar player now a days.. no chance...

I wish he was putting up 49 points in 19 games in the KHL. Its 19 goals and 51 points in 49 games...

I understand why everybody is afraid of Jagr but please be kind enough to add options to make our team better then. The way I see itt adding jagr adds a vet presence that has size and a known game of puck possession. He could come here and supply as little as 40 or so points and for around 2 million that makes our team a lot better. It also leaves us a lot of room to fill all of our main needs. Like replacing Rafalski and Ericsson. Also to put something in perspective, Jagr is asking for less money the Big E is, so I'm thinking it is a pretty good deal. I'm just curious what all you other arm chair GM's would do instead of of jagr that would bring us more of an attack and size up front, while leaving enough money to fill our void on the back end?

I agree... We can't give him a major payday. This is the first I have heard of him asking for one and I really don't think he is in the position to ask for one. He is an aging vet. (yes with a lot of skill left). Who is looking at a last run for a cup after not playing in the NHL for 3 years. To me that doesn't ring pay day... If Jagr wants to play for a true contender it should be more around the words of "discount" I will say I like the thought of Jagr on the wings. Babcock said he wanted more up front. This does that and if it's at a nice price it doesn't dip into our pockets that deep for our D signings. It also will most likely be a 1 year deal so if it fails he is gone next year, or if we need the cap room. I believe even if he put up only 40 points. It is 40 points we didnt have last year and one more strong big forward on our team. Our wings consisting of Franzen, Jagr, Holmstrom, and Bertuzzi sounds great and would give guys like datsyuk, zetterberg, Filppula and even Hudler some more room to work with.

Sign him up Kenny...

The reason all the talk is around Carter is because a lot of Philadelphia sources said he is the main piece in a trade with Columbus. This is Philys last chance to trade him cause once the season start he has leverage with his NTC. I know Carter to Detroit is a far fetch cause if he is on the market a lot if teams will be asking about him, but nothing is impossible and it is known what our needs are. Do I think they are going to move Carter? I have no idea. I live in the Philly area and a lot if their fans want him gone cause of his playoff. Performances and because they said he is causing problems in the locker room. I will say this though, it is a very low blow move to sign Carter for an 11 year deal and then trade him away. Only a couple months before his NTC kicks in and send him to a bad team. That would look very bad if Phillys part so id they part with him I think they should bs cautious where they send him cause burying him in a bad organization will look bad. Crash

The only thing is I don't have a clue on what Carters no trade clause is.... As of right now it looks like there is one in his contract but may not be in effect yet "Also included in the deal was a limited no trade clause for Carter. It’s an unusual trade clause in the sense that it allows Carter to veto up to a maximum of 10 teams to which the Flyers can not trade him. That perk for Carter kicks in at the start of the 2012-13 season and runs for three seasons. After that, it is modified for the remainder of the deal."