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Thats not shocking coming from you.

http://flickr.com/photos/nhl_mutants/ My personal favorite is Pavel Lecavalier..

20009 is one hella long time away...

This is the most underrated hockey tournament in the world. Fantastic hockey and tons of future stars.

I beleive the game is changing and the Enforcer is slowly dying and I think the newer generation of fans see that and the older ones do not. Now this doesnt mean we dont still need an enforcer now but we may not in 10 years.

For the record I am neither pro enforcer nor anti enforcer but I beleive this team needs a shake-up. I have been biting my tongue about Kopecky for a while but now it has to be said. There is nothing anyone can say to convince me that he should be in ther line-up over any of Downey,Helm or Leino. Why not throw Downey in there and see what happens?

why is it blacked out?

i still got nothing on center ice

Why hasnt the game started ,i got no feed on NHL center ice?

I'll take Franzen over Lang on that line anyday...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=258958&amp...s=secStory_main They also waived Chris Gratton,I'm sure he will be picked up.

Was that around the time that Stevie was injured and Chabot and Adam Oates were awesome?

I read the story on TSN before this and they make no mention of the snowblower incident, I was curious to how it happened. In a related note when they asked Sakic what happened to the snowblower he cursiously replied " I bit her fingers right back!"

Ah I miss the "Holland sucks and should be fired!" threads. Maybe someone could make one and we can just keep bumping it to the top.

I agree with most of what youre saying and ,as Ive said on here before ,Wings fans are the biggest bunch of panickers in the NHL. Even with that being said the whole point of discussion boards is just that,to discuss and air feelings about the team. There are a lot of good fans on here and there are a lot of Band Wagon jumpers as well but we are all fans one way or another. So if youre going to stick around cut us some slack,if not well I hope were both still celebrating in June anyway.

I'll be the first to say that Mindfly has said some silly things but you could argue that home ice advantage won the Cup for the Wings last year. Still im ok with 2nd or 3rd this season

I'm ok with 2nd or 3rd,let someone else be the favorite.

You may be on to something there,my girlfirend even said that Pavel wasnt around the net as much as usual.

I like the defense pairings also,Stuart with Nick makes a lot of sense being that hes physical.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...rapid.html#more

Bunch of panickers,lets worry when we hit March or so.

I would but only because I feel bad for the ass kicking weve been giving then the last few years.

I would also hope that Hank gives us some kind of hometown discount. My original thought was that he would sign the same deal a Pavel give or take a few and I still beleive thats where he ends up. I hope I'm not wrong on this one because while Hank is worth 7.8mil, in the messed up sports world value system ,it would greatly hinder the teams ability to sign other players.

I say it because Holland was going to call Lidstrom to see if its ok Hossa made more than him so they obviously have an agreement. I doubt Hank would attempt to break it.

Zetterberg wont earn more than Nick so I would say thats false.