Drake_Marcus

Or someone hot at least! On an unrelated note: Helm and Leino are reallllly making the decision on the last forward spot tough for the Wings brass.

Ouch! Bad news for the Blues and for that prospect. Hopefully he gets better soon.

You're right that he hasn't failed yet. I am worried that he will, however, if only because he's competing against people who are showing up right now as being better than him. We all know he's capable of playing better than he has over the last year in GR and during the call-up in Feb, but that knowledge of potential will only get him so far. As far as everyone lusting over Ericsson- that's because he's the real deal. Hell- Babcock wanted him to stay with the team last year after they called him up in February and reluctantly sent him back down once everyone was healthy again. I disagree that the result's the same for E being sent down due to waiver free status. The whole organization is salivating over Ericsson and he's impressed at every single opportunity. If it came down to keeping Ericsson now or exposing him to waivers the Wings would keep him now 100 times out of 100. Do I have E blinders on? No, but I'm a huge fan of his based on his play, drive, personality and potential. Ericsson really is the Wings' ace in the hole as far as prospects are concerned.

Wow... this is a huge blow to the Pens. I don't really see a "Malkin" type equivalent player to step up ala- the great Crosby injury of 2008.

I agree 100%. I'd love to see Lebda gone, but he's playing for peanuts so trading him is going to free up zero cap space. Meech is playing for peanuts as well, so dumping him doesn't help. Oh, and when Lilja was re-signed Holland called him an insurance policy when referring to the potential signing of Stuart.

He didn't have one shaky game! He was shaky in every single call up game last year. He was shaky in every single AHL game last year. Quincey's had more than a year since that 07 call up to prove himself and all he's done is erode the good faith he earned back then.

Easily. Quincey has far less potential than them, and while Pyett doesn't have his size he outplayed Quincey by far during training camp. Pyett really made an impression on the Wings management. Nicastro is a fresh draftee with more potential than Quincey ever did. Nicastro projects as a top 4 d-man, Quincey's struggling to take and run with an oppertunity to succeed in the NHL that he's being given since playing in the 07 playoffs.

I hope no one takes him- the Hawks deserved what they got when they gave him that contract then offered a similar contract to another goalie knowing Khaby is neigh untradeable. 6.75 million is about 4 million more than he's worth (and that's being generous).

Actually- most people on this board are pretty consistent in their stance on most issues. You can't call the board hot/cold because one group likes him one week and a completely different group of people voice concern about him another.

Also of note (thanks to Tre Kronor over on RWC for some of the data), is that the leading pre-season scorers for the Wings are: Zetterberg - 2g, 1a Leino - 1g, 1a Emmerton - 1g, 1a Helm - 0g, 2a

Interestingly the Lilja-Meech pairing is +2... Too bad for Lilja that Lebda wouldn't provide cap relief.

Zetterberg scores from Hudler and Franzen.

Thanks NN! At least we've got some kind of coverage

Goal for Leino! Assisted by Helm and Haydar.

It's a link to an old game.

Can anyone get the "listen live" on this page to work? --> http://redwings.nhl.com/team/app?service=p...;bcid=int_radio I'm bummed I might have to listen to an Atlanta broadcast, but it's better than nothing.

1. Jonathan Ericsson 2. Derek Meech 3. Jakub Kindl 4. Brendan Smith 5. Logan Pyett 6. Max Nicastro

Actually, my reasons for giving up on him are: --Worst defensive call up last year in February (he was the first to be sent back down, Big Rig being the last) --Horrible season in Grand Rapids last year (as in Kindl bad, but Kindl was a first year pro that will only get better with time) --Horrible performance in preseason inter-squad scrimige games and preseason games vs other teams --Apparently he's regressed since his playoff experience in 07 --The Wings have half a dozen more promising defensive prospects than him --If it comes down to Meech or Quincey we all know who wins. And that only settles the log jam this year- next year Ericsson comes up for sure and he'll be playing on one of the top three pairings, no question- the management has already said that.

I do so! Do you know who Stephen Harper is?

Ouch. Sucks to be a country then. At least they have a 70+ Bush act-alike with horrible rage issues on the horizon!

Duh. His name is Henrik Zetterberg.

What about his terrible play in GR this season? He really needs to wake up and start working his butt off given the talented prospects he's fighting for a spot against.

No shocker there- Quincey's the least talented and least valuable Red Wings defensive prospect. It sucks but it's true. He really needed to impress during these preseason games and he's done the exact opposite. I still stand by my original belief that the Wings should've traded him after the 06-07 playoffs while his stock was high. Ericsson and Meech have both been impressive so far this preseason. Hopefully they keep it up. Meech is a good kid and deserves the shot to play regular minutes. Big Rig might make the team but he's going to have to blow Meech right out of the water and make Lillypad look silly. As far as your last statement: I agree- Meech is Lebda with the ability to play hockey instead of speedskating with hockey gear on.

Boys, girls. I found it. I searched, googled, swore and wept. But I freaking found it! I dug this up on a random site: http://www.usliveradio.com/michigan.html Scroll down until you see WXYT. Click 32 Kbps and select iTunes as your player. This work around allows you to hear the game from the AM version of the station YEAAHHH! I found this via hard work and expect many props because no one else has this secret! Edit: the iTunes part probably doesn't matter, I was just showing you exactly what I did to get the stream. Oh- and please don't repost this... I wouldn't want wxyt to fix this mixup!

I think this game firmly reminds management of who the worst members of the D are... The Wings just don't play the same when they're not backed up by skillful, crisp-passing d-men. Well, I guess only having two top six forwards out there hurts too