Selänne will play another season

[Doggy 130]

Lies your mind says no to the ducks but your heart says yes

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[rage 24]

This doesn't phase me. Among other problems that the Ducks have, fans of older players always seem to forget how quick these guys go down hill. Chelios is a prime example. One year hes a Norris candidate, two years later he's not even among the top 4 on his team. Sakic is another example, well over a PPG average and 100 points one year, and then injuries abound and a sub PPG rating later. And while thats not to say Sakic is going down hill from here, its quite easy to illustrate with examples of other players. Towards the end of a hockey career, its a slippery slope. And after a short post-season and less than half a season of regular play, who knows how his production is going to go. Either way, this isn't the 40 goal, 90 point Selanne of a few years ago.

Okay, just letting you know that 2 years ago he had 48 goals and 46 assists. OH, and won the Cup. Not to bad.

Are you kidding?? Red Wings fan's have always had this problem that you talk of!! People still wanted Feds here, some want Shanny back (fewer now than last year), Chelios back, D-Mac back, Kozlov back (when he was a UFA from ATL), Lapointe back (trade deadline couple seasons ago).......And you're saying that Duck's fans don't understand how players take a decline in playing ability??

Blinders..You are trying to single out Ducks' fans because you don't like the Ducks IMHO. I could have read into this all wrong, just saying...

Edited August 31, 2008 by rage

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Okay, just letting you know that 2 years ago he had 48 goals and 46 assists. OH, and won the Cup. Not to bad.

Are you kidding?? Red Wings fan's have always had this problem that you talk of!! People still wanted Feds here, some want Shanny back (fewer now than last year), Chelios back, D-Mac back, Kozlov back (when he was a UFA from ATL), Lapointe back (trade deadline couple seasons ago).......And you're saying that Duck's fans don't understand how players take a decline in playing ability??

Blinders..You are trying to single out Ducks' fans because you don't like the Ducks IMHO. I could have read into this all wrong, just saying...

Do you have reading problems? Learning Disabilities? I JUST said Selanne was a 40 goal scorer, 90 point guy a few seasons ago. Then you tell me that 2 years ago he had 48 goals and 46 assists? Is there something you can't connect there, buddy? And similarly, Selanne didn't win the cup all on his lonesome. His team did. One player does not a Stanley Cup earn.

Secondly, the token folks that want Shanny and Fedorov back don't expect them to net 40 goals, throw big hits, or nab 100+ points by flying through the neutral zone. Whenever anyone wants Fedorov or Shanahan back - and there are very few Wings fans who actually think those additions would be a good idea, especially where Shanny is concerned - they expect them to play well below the level they did when they were Wings. Again, reading comprehension here is key when assessing other people's posts.

Thirdly, and once again this is READING COMPREHENSION 101 here. I said nothing about Ducks fans. I said something about the Ducks - which denotes the team - and their problems; problems meaning a GM that might jump ship, having salary cap issues, likely having to trade players at a lower value than is typical, and the fact that their scoring will once again be lacking. That has nothing to do with Ducks fans. Now, I did use the word "fans", but in conjunction with the phrase "of older players". And you, in fact, are backing up my point by using the examples of folks that like Fedorov and Shanahan. When people are FANS OF OLDER PLAYERS, as I stated, this encompasses ALL OLDER PLAYERS. That means Selanne, Sakic, Fedorov, Shanahan, Chelios, Brind'amour, etc. Any older player you can think of. Not just older players on the Ducks. Fans of those players are often under the illusion that those players are going to play at a high pace forever simply because they had a stellar year at 36, 37, or even older, simply because, as you state in your post, they have the blinders on. However, NOWHERE in my post did I say that was a characteristic of Ducks fans and Duck fans only (again, nowhere in my post is the phrase "Ducks fans" even written). I would say - and personally do believe - that such is going to be the case with Nick Lidstrom. Everyone expects him to be a Norris winner until the day he dies, but fact remains that there were many occasions in this years playoffs where he didnt look like himself, which could easily indicate the slippery slope. And I'm guessing - as is the case with saying I expect Selanne to start on that downward slope - that if I were to suggest the same about LIdstrom, I would be lambasted for it. So bring it on.

...but again, as I apparently need to reiterate every point I made in my previous point in laymen's terms, older players go down hill fast, whether its due to the body simply aging, or the propensity for injuries. And expecting Selanne to be the bona fide All-Star winger that he was a few seasons ago is an easy expectation to have, but not necessarily a guaranteed outcome as you would expect with someone in the 28-32 range.

Edited August 31, 2008 by YoungGuns1340