frederick9125 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 hossa-dats-homer leino-z-cleary Abdel-draps-lucic filp-huds-helm trade mule, conks, lebs for ryan miller trade sammy, kop, malts, 1st and 2nd for lucic, 4th and 5th Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticWing 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) Not that I think anything really needs to be done, but it's always fun to play GM. malts, kop, sammy, lebs, 1st and 2nd for lucic. we do better with later picks anyway That could do, although I would try to squuze in Rask just in case they are run by idiots Hossa - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Filpulla - Zetterberg - Franzen Cleary - Hudler - Lucic Abdelkader - Draper - Helm Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Ericsson - Lilja Leino/Meech as extras Edited November 4, 2008 by ArcticWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frederick9125 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 hossa-dats-homer PP1 ! PP2? mule-z-leino dats-z-homer mule-huds-cleary helm-draps-cleary lids-hossa rafi-kronner filp-huds-Abdel lids-rafi kronner-stu ericsson- meech oz conks this is what i would honestly like to see, all jokes aside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Hossa - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Hudler - Zetterberg - Franzen Cleary - Filpulla - Helm Abdelkader - Draper - Kopecky Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Ericsson - Chelios Osgood Conklin this is the team i'd want if I was Holland. we've got a solid team thats just needing a little tweeking we don't need any trades. just use what we have........ although , I'd bring back Fedorov if I got a chance and put him on the second line with Zetterberg and Franzen. I am assuming you know you left Sammy off of your roster. So Kopecky, Helm, Abdelkader are all better than Sammy? You do realize there are 4 forwards on this team out scoring Sammy, 3 of which are 3 of the top 20 players in the game? The other forward is Homer, playing on a line with 2 of the top 20 players in the game? You are going to get rid of Sammy why, because you don't like what aspect of his game? or is it just because it is the thing to do? Whom are you going to play win Franzen's spot for the next 2 weeks? How does the cap look with those guys up? I didn't do the math. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 It never ceases to amaze me how some people think 3 turds are better than 1. We are not going to get any real talent in return for Maltby, Kopecky, Lebda, or McCarty, no matter how many of them you try to clump together. If I'm Kenny I do nothing ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 I am assuming you know you left Sammy off of your roster. So Kopecky, Helm, Abdelkader are all better than Sammy? You do realize there are 4 forwards on this team out scoring Sammy, 3 of which are 3 of the top 20 players in the game? The other forward is Homer, playing on a line with 2 of the top 20 players in the game? You are going to get rid of Sammy why, because you don't like what aspect of his game? or is it just because it is the thing to do? Whom are you going to play win Franzen's spot for the next 2 weeks? How does the cap look with those guys up? I didn't do the math. Yes I do know that I left Sammy out. I put up the team that i'd put in if I was Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Yes I do know that I left Sammy out. I put up the team that i'd put in if I was Holland. Why Kopecky over Sammy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Why Kopecky over Sammy? Why not? Sammys scored some goals this season but the guy is consistently one of the players with most shots in the NHL. So the way I figure he's gonna get the luck of the bounce sometime and they'll go in. how often does he miss them? he takes shots gives up the puck and possession. As for Kopecky i've always liked him, the guy has had alot of bad luck with some fairly serious injuries in his career and given a run in the team I think he could be a solid fourth liner on the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) Yes I do know that I left Sammy out. I put up the team that i'd put in if I was Holland. Are you also aware that since you are not trading anyone there is no way possible to put those guys on the team? And to your last post, you are going to pull out Sammy and his points, because you have always had a boner for Kopecky, solid reasoning and I am glad you are indeed not Ken Holland. Edited November 4, 2008 by Opie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Why not? Sammys scored some goals this season but the guy is consistently one of the players with most shots in the NHL. So the way I figure he's gonna get the luck of the bounce sometime and they'll go in. how often does he miss them? he takes shots gives up the puck and possession. As for Kopecky i've always liked him, the guy has had alot of bad luck with some fairly serious injuries in his career and given a run in the team I think he could be a solid fourth liner on the team. Sammy does have a low shooting %, but most of his points are actually assists this year. He's not my favorite guy out there, but he's a talented and reasonably priced 3rd liner who contributes on both ends of the ice. Kopecky, on the other hand, has yet to contribute much of anything ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted November 4, 2008 malts, kop, sammy, lebs, 1st and 2nd for lucic, 4th and 5th. we do better with later picks anyway Are you serious? You do realise Boston would never make that trade, in fact it probably would never happen, allthough I think Sammy + 1st + 2nd + Kopecky for just Lucic would get some consideration. Hossa - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Hudler - Zetterberg - Franzen Cleary - Filpulla - SAMMY Abdelkader - Draper - HELM Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Ericsson - Chelios Osgood Conklin this is the team i'd want if I was Holland. we've got a solid team thats just needing a little tweeking we don't need any trades. just use what we have........ although , I'd bring back Fedorov if I got a chance and put him on the second line with Zetterberg and Franzen. Allthough thats not possible until playoffs due to salary cap, that would be my wish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Are you also aware that since you are not trading anyone there is no way possible to put those guys on the team? And to your last post, you are going to pull out Sammy and his points, because you have always had a boner for Kopecky, solid reasoning and I am glad you are indeed not Ken Holland. I find your tone offending and think that you've been hanging out with to many of the fans who don't know how to carry themselves on LGW. In fact I don't have a boner for anyone. infact who the hell gives you the right to question what I say or do. if I remember correctly I have an opinion and expressed it. I said what I'd do if I was Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Zetts-Dats-Homer Hossa-Mule-Cleary/Hudler Cleary/Hudler-Filppula-Shinguard Assassin Helm-Draper-Kopecky/Abdelkader/Maltby/McCarty, depending on need. I'm still not wholly on board with splitting Pavel and Hank. While the Hossa-Homer-Datsyuk line is going well, Pavel's play has been a bit off. I still think it would be better for all involved to shift Hossa to the second line and surround him with not-quite-stars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 1. Trade Lebda for a mid-late round pick, because I need to think about cap space for call-ups once Cheli comes off of LTIR. 2. Initiate talks with the agents of Zetterberg, Franzen, and Hudler. 3. Investigate trade possibilities for a guy in the vein of Curtis Glencross, Chris Neil, or Jamal Mayers, dangling Mikael Samuelsson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Boston ain't run by complete idiots. didn't they trade Joe Thorton for Marco Sturm and...umm Brad Stuart? Yep brilliant move working out for them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 until they stop winning 7 out of every 10 games, I would do absolutely nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Zetts-Dats-Homer Hossa-Mule-Cleary/Hudler Cleary/Hudler-Filppula-Shinguard Assassin Helm-Draper-Kopecky/Abdelkader/Maltby/McCarty, depending on need. I'm still not wholly on board with splitting Pavel and Hank. While the Hossa-Homer-Datsyuk line is going well, Pavel's play has been a bit off. I still think it would be better for all involved to shift Hossa to the second line and surround him with not-quite-stars. I miss the Zetts - Dats -Homer line too. I can see why they changed it seeing they signed up Hossa and want to fit him in somewhere. but I also think its effected the gelling of the team in some ways too having them split up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 I find your tone offending and think that you've been hanging out with to many of the fans who don't know how to carry themselves on LGW. In fact I don't have a boner for anyone. infact who the hell gives you the right to question what I say or do. if I remember correctly I have an opinion and expressed it. I said what I'd do if I was Holland. You do have the right to an opinion but when it comes of as an uneducated opinion, as in when you through guys on the roster that don't fit under cap, some one is going to question your opinion, hell posting an opinion of any sort on a forum is usually going to draw questions from some one. I asked you about 5 questions regarding your first post, your response was you have always like Kopecky so why not try it. Sorry if my expression was too harsh for you, I take back the boner comment and instead replace it with: How can you make that roster work in the current NHL? Throwing out impossible scenarios, including ones that remove a top 6 forward for the last 3 years, is going to draw some criticism. If you can't take that I would suggest researching your opinion a little bit better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 1. Trade Lebda for a mid-late round pick, because I need to think about cap space for call-ups once Cheli comes off of LTIR. 2. Initiate talks with the agents of Zetterberg, Franzen, and Hudler. 3. Investigate trade possibilities for a guy in the vein of Curtis Glencross, Chris Neil, or Jamal Mayers, dangling Mikael Samuelsson. Point 3: I have stated since the signing of Hossa that Sammy has become expendable in a trade, but with the injury bug to Mule I question that a little, he seems to have a hard time staying healthy. However; I still believe Sammy is going to create the most space in the lineup and garner the most attention from other teams. I question how it would work on the return though, does Leino step in for Sammy, or does Huds get the nod. It can work roster and cap wise to trade Sammy for a true knuckle thrower, but it would be tricky on Babs end of things. Maybe Flip on the first line with Hossa and Dats, Z Huds Mule, Cleary Draper Homer, Leino Helm enforcer/malts. Possibly????? Point 1 is spot on, Cheli coming back is going to perpetuate some movement by the wings,it has to. Point 2, SOONER THE BETTER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 You do have the right to an opinion but when it comes of as an uneducated opinion, as in when you through guys on the roster that don't fit under cap, some one is going to question your opinion, hell posting an opinion of any sort on a forum is usually going to draw questions from some one. I asked you about 5 questions regarding your first post, your response was you have always like Kopecky so why not try it. Sorry if my expression was too harsh for you, I take back the boner comment and instead replace it with: How can you make that roster work in the current NHL? Throwing out impossible scenarios, including ones that remove a top 6 forward for the last 3 years, is going to draw some criticism. If you can't take that I would suggest researching your opinion a little bit better. okay well to get my team under the cap i'd trade Sammy...... say I strike while the iron is hot and he's hitting a bit of form. for a pick or two. as for me liking Kopecky. i've always liked him cause I've followed the guy's career and thaught he's had the potential to be a player who holds a bigger role on any team he's played in but has always had problems with injuries. he's a big body and doesn't mind throwing it around once in a while. I want Helm in thne team plain and simply because the guy has so much energy and drive. he plays with heart and has the potential to have a big role on our team. Abdelkader is a young guy who is playing really well and putting up points. if he played for nearly any other NHL team he'd be in the starting line up. so I thaught that my team would bring alot of energy and enthusiasm and with our veterans like Lidstrom, Chelios and Draper on the team it'd be smart to take advantage of this while they are still around and let the young guys learn from them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 until they stop winning 7 out of every 10 games, I would do absolutely nothing. Actually they have 18 points in 12 games which is 18 points out of a possible 24 for a "point percentage" of 0.750. At the rate of 0.750 if they were to continue they would finish with 123 points. I agree with you. Don't trade anybody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 I sit back and enjoy the fact that despite a poor start my team is still one of the best in the league. I give it until Chelios comes back or Franzen is confirmed to miss 10 games, and then I make a move or two. Those moves are as follows. If Franzen is out...Call up Leino and place him on the second line with Zetterberg. When Chelios is back, pick one Lebda, or Meech, whichever is not fitting (at this point Lebda) waive him, if he clears keep him, injuries happen and recall waivers are not your friend. If he is claimed, Ericsson just moved up the depth chart to first call up in case of injury. Other then that I wait another month. If Leino is still tearing up the AHL I try my options and possibly send Mac to GR and give Leino a shot demoting Kopecky and Maltby to a 12/13 platoon. If Leino has slowed down in the AHL, I leave my team as is, hope it stays healthy and let Babcock do his thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 okay well to get my team under the cap i'd trade Sammy...... say I strike while the iron is hot and he's hitting a bit of form. for a pick or two. as for me liking Kopecky. i've always liked him cause I've followed the guy's career and thaught he's had the potential to be a player who holds a bigger role on any team he's played in but has always had problems with injuries. he's a big body and doesn't mind throwing it around once in a while. I want Helm in thne team plain and simply because the guy has so much energy and drive. he plays with heart and has the potential to have a big role on our team. Abdelkader is a young guy who is playing really well and putting up points. if he played for nearly any other NHL team he'd be in the starting line up. so I thaught that my team would bring alot of energy and enthusiasm and with our veterans like Lidstrom, Chelios and Draper on the team it'd be smart to take advantage of this while they are still around and let the young guys learn from them. 1. Samuelsson is having a very good season this year, and I think it is safe to say he will play out his contract and be gone at the end of the year, but I think he has earned his spot on this team, and although he is my whipping boy has done nothing to merit a trade at this point. 2. I also really like Kopecky, but he plays well on an every 2-3 game basis so far, and is not using his size to fill the Dallas Drake void, thus he could easily find himself the 13th forward. 3. Everyone does, but I think he is better suited playing 20 minutes a night then 5 minutes a night, and then joining the 3rd line next season 4. Yes, but that is through 8 games....and I think it was 3 last year in Detroit...He needs a whole season, consistantly performing in the AHL, then I think he will be ready (possibly as soon as next season) When the team is winning why have a huge roster turnaround? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Why Kopecky over Sammy? Its the less of uselessness. Its a hard choice... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Its the less of uselessness. Its a hard choice... Really, are you sure about that, useless, really well there are about 18 more useless players than Sammy on this team currently, but yeah why not the 5th highest scoring forward on the team, that is a good way to win another cup! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
