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#461 Andy Pred 48

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 03:50 AM

So for Gus to stay up, Kenny has to let loose another forward? So we should see some sort of roster movement in the next 24 hrs.

We all know that Nyqvist should be at the club but its a numbers game and has Kenny got the minerals to do it, wait and see I guess.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 03:58 AM

So for Gus to stay up, Kenny has to let loose another forward? So we should see some sort of roster movement in the next 24 hrs.
We all know that Nyquist should be at the club but its a numbers game and has Kenny got the minerals to do it, wait and see I guess.

There will be some sort of movement, I bet they'll be burning up the wires tomorrow trying to get a trade, I think the fans will turn if goose isn't in the lineup against Ottawa.
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Posted 22 November 2013 - 05:13 AM

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Dabura mentioned our special teams - we're 9th in PP and 3rd in PK.  Considering how problematic they've both been the last few seasons, that's mighty impressive.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 05:26 AM

Gus and Gus with a fantastic showing happy for both.

 

Also Z with 3 points quie impressive.

 

now hopefullythey can start some sort of a winning streak.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 05:33 AM

Maybe what they should do is trade #11 back to Ottawa if he doesn't pickup his game. This team needs to quite signing these old Vets cause they never play the way they can and should. #11 should start paying like his worth his 5.5 Million dollars if not he should give some of that money back to the team like Hasek did a few years back.

 

I wish players would start playing like Maurice The Rocket Richard did & Gordie Howe did two players that give 150% every game. Players like #11 are here for the money and not the Stanley Cup if for the Cup he'd give 150% every game.

 

These guys are professionals they need to start playing like they deserve to be in the NHL! The New NHL is bad. Their was nothing wrong with the 90's NHL Game! I say get rid of #11 & #90 what have they done lately? But get Injured! They shouldn't have signed them they should have signed #24 and #51 and bought back the same team they had last season.

 

The Coach needs to start coaching for once and he needs to start being more like Scotty Bowmen was and start showing some tough love to these supposed to be Detroit Red Wings Players. I'm very happy that Detroit Red Wings Won Finally they need to keep it up. 



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 05:38 AM

Maybe what they should do is trade #11 back to Ottawa if he doesn't pickup his game. This team needs to quite signing these old Vets cause they never play the way they can and should. #11 should start paying like his worth his 5.5 Million dollars if not he should give some of that money back to the team like Hasek did a few years back.

 

I wish players would start playing like Maurice The Rocket Richard did & Gordie Howe did two players that give 150% every game. Players like #11 are here for the money and not the Stanley Cup if for the Cup he'd give 150% every game.

 

These guys are professionals they need to start playing like they deserve to be in the NHL! The New NHL is bad. Their was nothing wrong with the 90's NHL Game! I say get rid of #11 & #90 what have they done lately? But get Injured! They shouldn't have signed them they should have signed #24 and #51 and bought back the same team they had last season.

 

The Coach needs to start coaching for once and he needs to start being more like Scotty Bowmen was and start showing some tough love to these supposed to be Detroit Red Wings Players. I'm very happy that Detroit Red Wings Won Finally they need to keep it up. 

 

Are you kidding me? Alfredsson has come here and done exactly what was expected of him. He has 14 pts. in 19 Games and is our third leading scorer. Take a lap.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 07:16 AM

Do the Wings actually have to do a move right now to keep Gus up?

I was under the impression they didn't have to. Weiss/Alfie are not on LTIR so their salary still counts, but do we get too many bodies if they both come back? If so could maybe Sammy be waived just to clear a spot, and if no one else is injured by the time Danny D comes back it's bye Cleary?

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 07:43 AM

Why...?Maybe to get another Calder Cup MVP award

 

I was thinking to put some more size on.  He gets pushed around a bit too much for my liking.  I think if he were a little bigger, he would be MUCH more effective along the boards.  I understand that's not really his game, but I think it would help him out.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:01 AM

It just occurred to me: we have a second line now!!!

 

Yeah, at the cost of the first line.  Once Alfie and Weiss are back though...


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:42 AM

I know it makes roster sense to send Nyquist back down, but what's the point? Holland would only delay the inevitable. No one will trade with us. No one. So no matter what, unless he wants to wait until February or whenever to call Nyquist up again, he has to waive someone. It sucks to lose someone for nothing, but we've got a plethora of players who can be called up in a crunch.

Of course we all want to see Cleary and Sammy waived, but that won't happen.

Likely Andersson gets waived to make room for Nyquist and someone else to make room for a defenseman if Lashoff isn't better for the next game.

We can dump a few players because we can always call up Eavea or Tootoo or some kids. Which makes me wonder if Miller is waive bait, despite having a good year.
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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:44 AM

I know it makes roster sense to send Nyquist back down, but what's the point? Holland would only delay the inevitable. No one will trade with us. No one. So no matter what, unless he wants to wait until February or whenever to call Nyquist up again, he has to waive someone. It sucks to lose someone for nothing, but we've got a plethora of players who can be called up in a crunch.

Of course we all want to see Cleary and Sammy waived, but that won't happen.

Likely Andersson gets waived to make room for Nyquist and someone else to make room for a defenseman if Lashoff isn't better for the next game.


I don't think Anderson will get waived. Babs loves him as a 4th line center as do I. I think if someone gets waived it will most likely be miller

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:55 AM

Do the Wings actually have to do a move right now to keep Gus up?

I was under the impression they didn't have to. Weiss/Alfie are not on LTIR so their salary still counts, but do we get too many bodies if they both come back? If so could maybe Sammy be waived just to clear a spot, and if no one else is injured by the time Danny D comes back it's bye Cleary?

 

I'm pretty sure they dont have to make a move just yet but I'd say they probably want more than 6 d men up just in case.. so a move soon is very possible.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:16 AM

Maybe what they should do is trade #11 back to Ottawa if he doesn't pickup his game. This team needs to quite signing these old Vets cause they never play the way they can and should. #11 should start paying like his worth his 5.5 Million dollars if not he should give some of that money back to the team like Hasek did a few years back.

 

I wish players would start playing like Maurice The Rocket Richard did & Gordie Howe did two players that give 150% every game. Players like #11 are here for the money and not the Stanley Cup if for the Cup he'd give 150% every game.

 

These guys are professionals they need to start playing like they deserve to be in the NHL! The New NHL is bad. Their was nothing wrong with the 90's NHL Game! I say get rid of #11 & #90 what have they done lately? But get Injured! They shouldn't have signed them they should have signed #24 and #51 and bought back the same team they had last season.

 

The Coach needs to start coaching for once and he needs to start being more like Scotty Bowmen was and start showing some tough love to these supposed to be Detroit Red Wings Players. I'm very happy that Detroit Red Wings Won Finally they need to keep it up. 

 

This post is full of fail.  Yes the wings need to stop signing old vets but thats old vets like Cleary and Bert. Trying to validate your point using Alfredsson is even more fail. The guy is only out pointed by Pav and Z. He was brought in to be secondary scoring not lead the team. So common sense dictates that if hes only behind Pav and Z, who are expected to lead the team in scoring, then he is 100% fulfilling his job as secondary scoring. Keeping Brunner, he of 7 pts over half of which came in the first 3 games, and Fil would not have moved this team forward. They needed changes from a stale roster and at-least made an attempt at it. Please try again though.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:31 AM

Maybe what they should do is trade #11 back to Ottawa if he doesn't pickup his game. This team needs to quite signing these old Vets cause they never play the way they can and should. #11 should start paying like his worth his 5.5 Million dollars if not he should give some of that money back to the team like Hasek did a few years back.

 

I wish players would start playing like Maurice The Rocket Richard did & Gordie Howe did two players that give 150% every game. Players like #11 are here for the money and not the Stanley Cup if for the Cup he'd give 150% every game.

 

These guys are professionals they need to start playing like they deserve to be in the NHL! The New NHL is bad. Their was nothing wrong with the 90's NHL Game! I say get rid of #11 & #90 what have they done lately? But get Injured! They shouldn't have signed them they should have signed #24 and #51 and bought back the same team they had last season.

 

The Coach needs to start coaching for once and he needs to start being more like Scotty Bowmen was and start showing some tough love to these supposed to be Detroit Red Wings Players. I'm very happy that Detroit Red Wings Won Finally they need to keep it up. 

I don't know how you could feel Alfie has been the problem.  Wasn't he 3rd in points (on the team) before he was injured?


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:37 AM

I think goose will stay. We have till dekeyser is off ltir to move someone

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:44 AM

Im pulling this from the lines thread so people will actually read it...

Per Nyquistfan14:

Why not leave pav and z split and go with something like this...

Weiss-pav-alfy
Goose-z-mule
Abby-helm-Tatar
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That should be a very good offense
Uknow, i havent thought of this either...come to think of it, its absolutely perfect! Think about it, Weiss needs to get his mojo going, his scoring touch if you will. Now what better way to get a guy producing than with arguably 2 of the best setup men in the league, in NHL history?

Now the second line will FORCE mule to play better just to keep up with Z, and a ROOKIE. Talk about lighting a fire under a guy. I expect that line to roll like weve only seen from ZDB line this season, possibly better.

3rd line, No problem, Abby-helm-tatar is such a solid and classic line combo. Grinder/skater/scorer, potentially modernizing the days of gold Grind Line, with less toughness and slightly more skill.

4th line, Miller-Andy/preferably Glendening-Bert, who will add alot to our 4th line, all the while playing where a player of his age and physical satus should be playing.

The real question is wether or not Babs will let them play together for more than one game and let them build some chemistry. He also must, pull his head out of his ass and remove Cleary from this team.

But all in all, if we can stay healthy that is one damn fine lineup.

The whole reason we got Weiss was to have a second line center. 



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:58 AM

Yeah, at the cost of the first line.  Once Alfie and Weiss are back though...

 

Even without Weiss and Alfie, the first line could be improved without changing the second line. Which is a positive thing.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:07 AM

 
Even without Weiss and Alfie, the first line could be improved without changing the second line. Which is a positive thing.

Good news is weiss is expected to return tomorrow. Where i see him playing on datsyuks wing. If babs doesnt change the 2nd line which he probably wont.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:08 AM

Maybe what they should do is trade #11 back to Ottawa if he doesn't pickup his game. This team needs to quite signing these old Vets cause they never play the way they can and should. #11 should start paying like his worth his 5.5 Million dollars if not he should give some of that money back to the team like Hasek did a few years back.

 

I wish players would start playing like Maurice The Rocket Richard did & Gordie Howe did two players that give 150% every game. Players like #11 are here for the money and not the Stanley Cup if for the Cup he'd give 150% every game.

 

These guys are professionals they need to start playing like they deserve to be in the NHL! The New NHL is bad. Their was nothing wrong with the 90's NHL Game! I say get rid of #11 & #90 what have they done lately? But get Injured! They shouldn't have signed them they should have signed #24 and #51 and bought back the same team they had last season.

 

The Coach needs to start coaching for once and he needs to start being more like Scotty Bowmen was and start showing some tough love to these supposed to be Detroit Red Wings Players. I'm very happy that Detroit Red Wings Won Finally they need to keep it up. 

 

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:16 AM

I think goose will stay. We have till dekeyser is off ltir to move someone

True, if they don't want to have a 7th D-Man on our roster. But with Lashoff possibly out for tomorrow that might be the case. Question is who to waive if not Gus ?

 

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