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B.B.

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Remember that Stuart rumor?

01 July 2008 - 07:40 PM

The first part of that rumor on another forum was correct. Stuart signed with us, got his no-trade clause, and I believe he called the exact cap hit. Now, the second part of that rumor involved us sitting down with Jagr and possibly signing him. With Rolston gone, and Sundin and Hossa probably gone, and the Rangers tying up a bunch of cap space to their "D," could Jagr be coming here?

Per Sipple, Wings are close to signing Lilja

22 June 2008 - 11:05 PM

Holland discusses state of team


Based on that, it sounds like Stuart is gone, Lilja is back. And, if they re-sign Chelli, then here are the 8 D-men:

Lids-Rafalski
Kronwall-Lilja
Lebda/Quincey/Meech/ Chelios

I found it interesting that he specifically mentions Meech as needing to get PT. Plus, it sounds like there will only be one-year deals given, and he is looking for a veteran forward again. I think Peca would be perfect for that role. Can play center, allow Helm to develop more in GR if need be, is a playoff warrior, and is a great defensive forward.

Thoughts?

Could Jason Smith be an option if Stuart bolts?

16 June 2008 - 10:21 PM

Let's assume Stuart leaves. Who would everyone want to see as our #4 D-man? Could Ericcson handle the minutes or are we better served to acquire another defensemen?

If we decide that Big E is not ready for the minutes, then I think Jason Smith would be a good option. He is a veteran, will not cost much, and could potentially only sign a one-year deal because of his age. He also, and this is the most important thing, is very steady and dependable, and while he may not have the offensive potential of a Stuart, he also may be a bit more reliable in the defensive zone. Also, if he is signed to only a one-year deal, then we will not tie into next season's budget, and it could also open up the possibility of signing a forward to a two or three-year deal (like a Rolston).

Opinions? Thoughts?

Off-Season moves

06 June 2008 - 02:24 PM

Well, it was great year. All of the critics, and all of the questions during the season have been answered. We are the champions!!! (Gosh, it feels good to say that) With that said, it is time to look towards the off-season…

Here are 5 things that must happen imo:

1. Get Babcock locked up long-term. Scotty Jr. is the best coach in the game. Hands down.
2. Re-sign Filpulla to a long-term deal. He is developing into a great two-way player, and someone who can be counted on in the PK and to score 20 or so goals a year. Bowman specifically mentioned him as one to watch, and I agree. He is 24, and will continue to get better (and he already is a 2nd-line center on a Stanley Cup champion.) My question, though, how much will he sign for? Cleary is getting 2.8 million, and Filpulla and his agent could certainly demand that he is worth more than Cleary (especially based on his potential). Could we get him signed for 2.5 mil or is that unrealistic?
3. Re-sign Stuart. +9 in the finals and 5 points in the finals? That is just sick. He and Kronwall destroyed the Malkin line, and that was the key to the series imo. (Zet, Dats, and Crosby’s line sort of neutralized each other. But, Pitt got nothing from that second line, while we got 6 goals from our second line in this series.) With him locked up, and Lids, Ralf, Kronwall, Lebda and (potentially) Ericcson all locked up for another 2 years… what a top 6. Hopefully he’ll take 3.5 mil. He certainly can earn more on the open market, but with the lure of another cup, hopefully he will take the 3.5 mil and be happy.
4. Re-sign our other RFA’s. Ericcson certainly seems to have impressed Babcock and Holland, and I would not be surprised to see him in the line-up next year. If he, Quincey and Howard combine to sign for 2.5 million then I would be very happy.
5. Bring in a veteran from outside the organization to motivate the guys. I fully believe that you cannot bring back the exact same team, otherwise complacency may set in. Bring in an outsider like Sundin or Nausland, and those guys become our rallying cry ( a la Robitaille and Hasek in 02, and Drake this year). I would say Rolston, as well, but I think Minny is going to re-sign him.


Without further ado, here are my projections for next year’s roster…

-With no FA additions, and assuming Hasek retires/ asked not to come back:

Z-D-H (11.85 million)
Franzen- Filpulla- Samuelsson (5.35 million with the assumption that Filpulla gets 3 million).
Maltby-Draper-Cleary (5.6 million)
Kopecky-Helm-Hudler (2.305 million)
McCarty (500,000)


Lidstrom-Rafalski (13.45 million)
Kronwall- Stuart (6.5 million assuming Stuart signs for 3.5 million)
Lebda-Ericcson (1.650 million assuming Ericcson signs for 1 million)
Quincey- Chelios (1.5 million) –I think Meech will be traded/waived after training camp b/c he is a similar player to Lebda and we need a big body on the bottom pairing like Quincey and/or big E.

Osgood (1.7 million)
Howard (1 million)

All in all, with this line-up, our salary total would be $51.405 million, and that is with high salary estimates for Val, Ericson, Howard and Quincey, and with us carrying 8 defensemen instead of the usual 7. So, with the projected cap at $56 million, we would have roughly 4.5 million left for the trade deadline.

-That to me is the conservative route, and one that we are most likely to go with. The next two projections are based on the idea that we sign either Sundin or Nausland.

Here is the idea if we sign Nausland. I like Flip as our second-line center. He can continue to develop and prosper there. However, I’m not too keen on Samuelsson playing a top 6 role again. Nausland can be a true sniper on that second line, and Franzen can be our power forward and Filpulla our playmaker on that line. Nausland also would have a lot of motivation. If I am correct, he has never won a Cup, and he has struggled in recent years. If he signs for a 1 year deal, and he scores 30 or more, and performs well in the playoffs on a Cup-contending team then he could command one final big money contract in the next off-season. This also would push Sammy down to a checking-line role, which is what he is suited for perfectly, and provide us with much-needed depth in case of injuries.


Z-D-H (11.85 million)
Franzen- Filpulla- Nausland (8.35 million with the assumption that Filpulla gets 3 million, and Markus get 3 million, as well).
Sammy-Draper-Cleary (5.85 million)
Maltby-Helm-Hudler (2.305 million)
Kopecky/McCarty (1.25 million)


Lidstrom-Rafalski (13.45 million)
Kronwall- Stuart (6.5 million assuming Stuart signs for 3.5 million)
Lebda-Ericcson (1.650 million assuming Ericcson signs for 1 million)
Quincey- Chelios (1.5 million) –I think Meech will be traded/waived after training camp

Osgood (1.7 million)
Howard (1 million)

This line-up would cost us $54.405 million and still allow us a little bit of money to use at the trade deadline if need be.

-And then there is Sundin. He is arguably the second-best forward available on the FA market, and might command some big money. However, if he is willing to sign for $5 million, then he would be quite the addition. To put it simply, he provides us with a lot of options. A lot. We could split up Z-D-H. Or, we could let him center a line with Franzen and Filpulla on the wings. Or it could allow Filpulla to be bumped down to the 3rd line, and Draper to the 4th and make us the strongest team in the NHL down the middle. The possibilities would be endless. But, with only $4.5 million or so to spend (again, this is based on salary projections that probably overestimate their eventual salary) we will probably only be able to carry 13 forwards and 7 D-men. Here, then, is one possible line-up:

Z-D-H (11.85 million)
Franzen- Sundin- Filpulla (10.1 million with the assumption that Sundin gets 5 million, and Flip get $3 million).
Sammy-Draper-Cleary (5.85 million)
Maltby-Helm-Hudler (2.305 million)
Kopecky ($520,000)


Lidstrom-Rafalski (13.45 million)
Kronwall- Stuart (6.5 million assuming Stuart signs for 3.5 million)
Lebda-Ericcson (1.650 million assuming Ericcson signs for 1 million)
Quincey (750,000)

Osgood (1.7 million)
Howard (1 million)


This line-up would cost us $55.675 million, and would, thus, leave us little room at the deadline to make any moves. It also would mean the end of McCarty and Chelios and I doubt that ends up happening. Also, it will stint the growth and development of Flip as a center. This projection does come with a caveat, though, If Flip signs for 2.5 mil, and Ericcson and Howard each sign for $750,00 then that opens up an additional 1 million to use for Chelli and McCarty or for the deadline, and signing Sundin becomes a lot more reasonable in terms of salary costs. It then would come down to whether or not the Wings want to add him to the team. So, if I’m the Wings, and it comes down to Sundin or Nausland, I think I have to take Sundin. He is the better two-way player, he provides us with more options, and he is still a point-a-game player who has shown no signs of declining, unlike Nausland. Markus would be the more conservative signing, but I think Sundin would ultimately prove to be the better acquisition with my only fear being that it may hurt the development of Flip. But, Flip could easily be placed on the wing as he was at times this year and have his best year ever, so that discussion would be moot.

Here, are other line-up possibilities:

Z-D-H
Franzen- Sundin- Sammy
Hudler-Flip-Cleary
Maltby-Draper-Kopecky
McCarty
-In this line-up, Helm would be allowed to dominate in the AHL and gain experience in playing in all situations.


Lidstrom-Rafalski
Kronwall- Stuart
Lebda-Ericcson
Quincey-Chelli

Osgood
Howard

Or if Scotty Jr. wants to split up D and Z...

Franzen-Sundin-Zet
Homer-Dats- Cleary
Kopecky-Flip-Sammy
Maltby-Draper-Hudler
McCarty

Or…

Franzen-Sundin-Zet
Homer-Dats-Flip
Cleary-Draper-Sammy
Maltby-Kopecky-Hudler
McCarty

Or…

Franzen-Sundin-Zet
Homer-Dats-Flip
Cleary-Draper-Kopecky
Sammy-Helm-Hudler
Maltby/ McCarty

Or..

Z-D-H
Franzen-Sundin-Cleary
Flip-Drapes-Sammy
Maltby-Kopecky-Hudler
McCarty

And, I could go on forever. Sundin, with his ability to center a first or second line and strong defensive play gives us a lot of options with lines.


Thoughts? Opinions?