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#2529054 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2014 - 07:38 PM


How does he replace Lidstrom and Rafalski? Those guys can't be replaced.


Rafalski is replaceable.  Lidstrom, not so much.  


Which is why you don't try and replace Lidstrom with one guy.  You have to re-evaluate how the whole team is built, because Lids was the keystone of it.  Then you make adjustments and give the team a new identity.  


Since Lidstrom retired, the Wings are basically the same kind of team only with a massive hole in the blueline and with Dats, Z, and Franzen no longer in their prime. 

#2528922 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2014 - 06:33 PM

Damn you Kenny Holland...you offered better contracts but didn't do some kind of voodoo s*** to get guys to come here....seriously, WTF do you want Holland to do?   He made better or equal offers and lost players to teams that are no better or worse than we are. 


What exactly should he do? 


I want Holland to do his job well.  He's been flailing over the last several years.   The reason they're not coming here is because players aren't excited at the prospect of playing for the Red Wings anymore.  That's on Holland.


No one is saying his job isn't extremely difficult, but it's that way for 29 other GM's.  As I said in another thread, replace Holland's name with Dan Cleary.  Cleary outworks just about everyone on the team which is admirable but he simply doesn't get the results to be competitive at the NHL level.  


Is that acceptable because he's a great guy who's trying with everything he's got?   


I don't care how hard Holland tried.  Results matter.  He's not getting any.

#2509376 4/13 GDT: Red Wings 3 @ Blues 0

Posted by Guest on 13 April 2014 - 02:03 PM

Surprisingly entertaining for a meaningless game.


Playing one decent game against a floundering Blues team does not necessarily equal a Hall of Fame career.


Always such a pleasure to listen to Dave Strader call a game.  Ken Daniels isn't bad, but Strader is just so smooth and professional and doesn't fall back on a lot of the silly clichés.  Dave and Mickey were the best.

#2500391 Backes on playing against Malkin and Crosby

Posted by kipwinger on 24 March 2014 - 12:20 PM

I don't get the fascination some of you have with this guy. Is this thread just another excuse to dream about getting him to the Wings? Because that quote seems like what anyone would say about going up against Sid and Malkin.


I can't speak for everyone else but my fascination with him has a lot to do with the fact that he's a huge powerforward who's a stud defensively, chips in 20-25 goals and 50+ pts. a season, hits like a truck, plays hard every shift of every game, is a consummate leader, and doesn't seem overly douchey as a person.  But that's just me.

#2472038 Look who's top in GR scoring

Posted by newfy on 11 January 2014 - 01:17 PM

The problem is we have so many fourth line players as it is. And Hollands love affair with cleary and Sammy and what not. There might not be room. If tootoo, Sammy, cleary, Bert, eaves and emmerton are gone then I personally would love a sheahan glendening and Callahan fourth. I just don't see it happening and I think Callahan and Ferraro will be the odd men out.

The problem with the "fourth line players" the wings have now is that they arent actual fourth liners. A fourth line should provide energy, some grit and defensive play at least. Instead the wings are putting washed up skilled guys who didnt play a fourth line role their whole career in the bottom 6. Emmerton is a scorer who cant score, hes not good on the PK, draws and not physical. Sammy is the biggest waste of space ever, hes so slow and still tries to stick handle around everyone like hes a top 6 player, Cleary is ridiculously old and broken down (and not even scratched ever) and even Eaves doesnt do much out there. Hes injury prone and redundant.


You take out those guys who are filler and put in specialist types and the fourth line would have an identity. Sheahan is the big, defensive center that can chip in some offense and is a great PK guy, Callahan will piss the other team off, throw big hits, fight a bit and is a really good PK guy and Glendening is a bit of a balance of the two. He agitates a little and plays a bit physical but is also more defensive minded. I consider Callahan and Glendening fast and Sheahan solid speed wise. Theyre all young and want to prove smoething as well. What is Samuelsson or Cleary playing for? Theyre handed a spot on the team and have made their millions over their careers. Need some guys who are hungry which all three of those would be, and would likely feed off each others energy

#2467116 12/21 GDT: Red Wings 5 @ Maple Leafs 4 (SO, yes, SO)

Posted by dat's sick on 21 December 2013 - 11:16 PM

That was an amazing game. Most entertaining one of our season so far imo. We dominated the first half, then somehow let them back in it (Gus was a bit shaky), but just got back to it and started playing and managed to get the extra point. 


Speechless at how great Jurco is. Ken Holland has a chance to redeem himself by finding a way to keep him up even when we're all healthy. Kid's got moves, but I'm mostly impressed by how solid he is in his fundamentals. Taking his responsibilites defensively (the assist was a perfect example), doesn't look outmatched physically, seems to know when he can pull out some moves and when he needs to keep it simple. 


For someone who has never been impressed by Sheahan, the guy raised my eyebrows tonight. He looked strong on the puck and made good plays all game long. Maybe he has a future for the Wings after all. 


Had a good feeling going into the shootout. Sooner or later we had to get it done and you could see from the reaction of the team that it wasn't just an ordinary win. This was big for them. 

#2458405 Possible trade with Panthers

Posted by St. Michael (the Red Wing) on 26 November 2013 - 10:13 PM

Florida just needs to move already and get it over with.

#2459286 Shea Weber leaves game with Injury

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 November 2013 - 05:43 PM

I never like seeing anyone take a puck to the face like that. 


As much as I disliked Weber's head smash on Hank, I was angrier about the lack of punishment.  He's one of those guys who sometimes plays on the edge, he just should've paid the price for it, both from the Wings and the league.


I'd still take Weber on the Wings in a heartbeat.  Hank could smash his face into the glass during practice and they can call it even.

#2458238 Brendan Smith

Posted by Euro_Twins on 26 November 2013 - 05:51 AM

I still can't decide if Smith fighting Neil was brave or stupid.

Brave. He got beat but he held his own, he did surprisingly better then I expected, he dis get like 4 or 5 good shots in, plus he didn't get knocked down

#2449525 Franzen believes hes playing well.

Posted by datterberg1340 on 01 November 2013 - 06:20 PM

Franzen is a shell of his former self, and will not ever be the same again


we will see flashes from time to time, but I think it's far too late to expect him to start producing offense at a consistent level


if he doesn't get the hint from Z's recent comment, or Babs putting him at center to FORCE him to be more engaged on the ice, then he never will(spoiler- he won't)


it reminds me of when the Oilers GM was complaining about Dustin Penner's lackadaisical play after he got his ridiculous contract, and he said something along the lines of, "Penner saw getting this contract as an end point, and he should've seen it as a starting point"


that's how I feel Franzen looks at his contract and how much effort he thinks he needs to put in, it's like he's thinking, "Hey I worked hard to get this awesome lifetime contract, now it's time to sit back and watch the money pile up"


ok maybe that's a bit much, but y'all get my point; he doesn't feel he has much to play for, he's won a Cup, he's got his money, to him the rest is gravy


and the difference between Z's contract and Franzen's contract is Z has passion for the game and loves to go out there and compete and be the best player on the ice, Franzen does not have that passion, except maybe in little tiny bursts

#2450032 Philly Capitals line brawl

Posted by F.Michael on 02 November 2013 - 09:03 AM


Damn old time hockey and I missed it.

My only real beef is the fact that there may have been a few guys on the Caps (Holtby in particular) who were on the ice, and aren't accustomed to getting involved in fights, and are then 'jumped'...The 'Old School Knuckle Dragger' in me thinks that was a pretty low brow move by Emery, and unless you're Matt Cooke/Ulf Samuelsson/Claude Lemieux/etc/etc - you do not deserve that sort of treatment.

#2447035 Ouellet Debut Tonight

Posted by kipwinger on 22 October 2013 - 10:27 AM

As I mentioned in another thread, it's not Quincey's job to make Smith look good.  Quincey is playing good hockey for us right now, and he stepped up huge for us last night against a VERY good hockey team.  Last year when Quincey struggled, I didn't hear anyone saying that it was somehow Smith's job to make him look good, so where does this expectation come from?  Good on Smith for having a good game last night, but that's no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.  As of right now he's our weakest defenseman and if he needs a rookie prospect as a partner to bring out the best in his game then he's got a very very very long way to go before we can say he's ready for a bigger role.

#2435669 Report: Cleary to sign with PHI, 3 yrs, $2.75m/yr, NTC

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 September 2013 - 08:56 AM

Given that it's too long of a term for a guy Cleary's age and injury history AND has a NTC, I'm kind of surprised Holland wouldn't match it.  That's his kind of deal!   :P


Seriously though, he took too much crap around here for doing what was asked of him, but with the Wings already having old injured goats with NTC's, Cleary on a crowded roster just didn't make sense anymore.  The young guys need to get ice time, even if there's gonna be growing pains.  The downside is the Wings lost one of their only players who went to the tough areas of the ice and drove to the net every shift.  That's how he got those "lucky" points.


I don't know what Philly is thinking but good on Cleary.  Hopefully his body holds up and he can keep contributing.  

#2418839 Franzen Buyout?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 June 2013 - 01:04 PM

I'm just not seeing Tootoo as an important piece as the Wings move forward.  He was a healthy scratch far too often in the regular season and the playoffs. That's not an indication of someone the coach values. The problem is there's not much to really do with him.  He's signed through next season, doesn't have much trade value and I think the Wings have more pressing contracts to use for buyouts. 

I don't think he is either. 


While I'm happy he didn't throw any clear cheapshots, he didn't provide as much energy as I hoped.  And his biggest hits are usually when he takes himself well out of position to make them.  While it's nice to have another player on the Wings who will drop the gloves, the staged fights are useless.


Unless he suddenly develops some new aspect to his game, like being responsible defensively, Tootoo was a bad signing.  He's overpaid for what he brings.  I just wish the Wings had signed a player like him, but not him.

#2403993 Any tips on ways to tolerate the NBC media?

Posted by ogreslayer on 13 May 2013 - 02:22 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't like the NBC broadcast mostly for Emerich?  I can't stand the way he talks and the odd phrases he uses.


Doc might DRIVE! to your house & waffle board you in the face if he saw this.


(So am I the only one who listens to Doc broadcasting & thinks about him talking like that in everyday life?)