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Patrick Roy' Statue of Liberty... That was great...


Steve Yzerman Game 7 Double Overtime Goal against St. Louis.  HE SCORED FROM THE BLUE LINE!!!!  Amazing...

CINDY CROSBY HAS A SPINE????

Even Don Cherry, Rangers coach John Tortorella,  and Flyers assistant coach craig Berube agrees with me.

Weber wants a cup and getting paid as the elite defenseman he clearly is, so either Nashville pays him or he will become a Flyer making that team unstoppable.

Wow...Pronger and Weber on the Philly blue line.... Glad they're in the other conference.  However, Nashville gets 4 first round draft picks!!!!  Nashville would be foolish to match the offer sheet.  Shea Weber wants out and I'd be happy to let him go for that price.  It's a great deal for Weber, Philly and Nashville.

I think it was funny how many people on this board chastised me for suggesting we should offer sheet Shea Weber.  He's the one guy I would have signed for $8 million per year.  I had to hear how nobody ever does it...   lol

At this point, we are going to have to overpay for talent.  Either that, or just bring up the kids and focus on making the playoffs.

I prefer bringing up the kids and signing long term contracts with Justin Abdelkader, Valtteri Filppula, Pavel Datsyuk and Brendan Smith.  We can always sign Shea Weber for $8.5 million per year next year.  He's one of the few players worth the money.

We need more style of play like Niklas Kronwall.  

Pavel Datsyuk http:// youtu.be/fuedKsOGUCw

and the work horse Darren Helm...  

The one thing we can’t do as a franchise is live in the past saying… “We need to replace Lidstrom.”  Our identity needs to adapt to the talent available.  I would prefer the Wings focus on defense and becoming tough to play against.  I want opponents coming to Detroit saying, “Oh crap… we play Detroit tomorrow.”  The least penalized team label has to go.  We need some bigger tougher players.  I’m not talking about being dirty or fighting.  I’m talking about agitators like Niklas Kronwall and Jordin Tootoo.  

  


For those of you who want to remember the past.  The best was Vladimir Konstantinov!  

Red Wings Rebuilding and Adapting to Maintain Dominance

The Detroit Red Wings have been in a rebuilding phase since Brian Rafalski hurt his knee and retired.  But with Brad Stuart and Nick Lidstrom gone, this sends the Red Wing organization into a much deeper rebuilding process.  We are the victim of our own success.  The Wings were so dominate for so long that fans around the country figured who ever won the Detroit/Colorado series would become the Cup Champion.  The Eastern Conference could only hope the two teams would beat each other up to have a chance.  But not even the mighty Avalanche could keep up with the Red Wings.  As a result the NHL introduced a policy of parity among teams.  That’s why I laugh at all the knuckleheads on this forum who attack Kenny Holland and the Red Wing management.  These are the same people who forced the NHL to change the rules toward parity.  

The Wings not only dominated the ice with leadership and skill, but their marketing dominated even the NHL front office through its Hockeytown campaign.  They redefined the game with the left wing lock and a specialized system which was unique to the league.  The Wings dominated with an active owner willing to commit the resources for developing talent and building morale.  The Wings dominated in attendance and fan base around the league.  But the biggest domination has been in the draft and evaluating talent.  It really would have been scary if 11^th round pick Vladimir Konstantinov played a full career alongside Nick Lidstrom.

Kris Draper for a dollar from Winnipeg!
Kirk Maltby a trade with Edmonton in '95 for defenseman Dan McGillis! WHO IS DAN McGILLIS!!!!
Vladimir Konstantinov 1989: 11th round, (221st overall)
Sergei Fedorov 1989 - 4th round (74th overall)
Keith Primeau to Hartford for Brendan Shanahan!
Nick Lidstrom 1989 - 3rd round (53rd overall)
Slava Kozlov 1990 - 2nd round (45th overall)
Bob Probert 1983 - 3rd (46th overall)
Joe Kocur 1983 - 5th Round, (88th overall)
Johan Franzen 2004 - 3rd round (97th overall)
Darren Helm 2005 - 5th round (132nd overall)
Pavel Datsyuk1998 - 6th round (171st overall)
Valtteri Filppula 2002 - 3rd round (95th overall)
Tomas Holmstrom 1994 - 10th round (257th overall)
Henrik Zetterberg 1999 - 7th round (210th overall)
Jonathan Ericsson 2002 - 9th Round, (291st overall)
Chris Osgood 1991 - 3rd round (54th overall)
Jimmy Howard 2003 - 2nd Rnd, (64th overall)

This proves the Wings didn’t just throw money at players!  They built a dominating franchise in all phases in the sport!  

THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT

As Red Wing fans we need to accept this transition of rebuilding and not demand trades for overpriced forwards like Rick Nash ($7.8 annually).  Don’t trade the youth… develop the youth!  The NHL has changed the rules, now we need to adapt and dominate like we have in the past.  

The following list of Red Wing youth all have a tremendous chance to contribute to the organization.



Brendan Smith  D  

Damien Brunner  LW  

Riley Sheahan  C   http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=PET_AGhPCg0

Petr Mrazek  G http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TVpMrFNzOYTomas Jurco  RW  http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=biPsk6n2q5g

Teemu Pulkkinen  RW  http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzfGZwoiGjU

Gustav Nyquist  LW  http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGuCbnHiy3o

Tomas Tartar  LW  http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=OivN-x05v24

Calle Jarnkrok  C  http: //youtu.be/pJrqdY4HDDg

Ryan Sproul  D  http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fil5eZGVyb0

Xavier Ouellet  D  http: //youtu.be/aMgjqcQzbp0

Landon Ferraro  C  http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=20sz6_Aj4xc

Martin Frk   http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEQbMQLgZO0

Evander Kane is a Better Option than Zach Parise

I can’t lie; missing out on Ryan Suter was a huge blow to our defense and a run for the cup this coming year.  However…

While left wing Zach Parise is a great talent, he is not worth the price Minnesota paid for him.  At the prime age of 27 years, Zach Parise scored 31 goals.  Kenny Holland was actually pushing the limit offering Parise $90 million over 13 years ($6.92Mp/r).

Left wing Evander Kane on the other hand is 6 years younger, stronger, tougher, and bigger!  Not even in his prime yet at 20 years, scored over 30 goals last season.  Currently he’s a restricted free agent in Winnipeg.  I’d offer Evender Kane a long-term 13 year deal worth $80 million.  That’s just over $6 million per year.  It will cost the Wings a first, second, and a third rounder.  However, in the long-term Evander Kane will become a better value than Zach Parise.  Next year we need to gear up to buy Shea Weber.




OFFER COMPENSATION
$1,110,249 or below None
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 Third-round choice
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 Second-round choice
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 First-round and third-round choice
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 First-round, second-round and third-round choice
Over $6,728,781 to $8,410,976 Two first-round choices, one second- and one third-round choice
Over $8,410,976 Four first-round choices

1. Where else do you get a standing ovation for killing a penalty?  
Only HockeyTown!


2. 11 Stanley Cup Championships!
3. Rated the best franchise in sports!
4. 21 consecutive playoff appearances AND COUNTING!!  (Nearest one is 8!)
5. In the last 15 years, the Red Wings win the Stanley Cup 27 percent of the time!
6. The best owner in sports!  We aren't just a team...we are family.
7. We've got Datsyuk!


8. THE BEST FANS IN THE WORLD!!!!!

Add to the list...

....Come on guy, do I really need to tell you to go back and read the comment again?We all know what he was saying.... A fair analogy would have been Souray/Stuart/Boyle/Carkner. By your logic we should be calling Smith a Konstantinov/Lidstrom/Chelios combo cause he can hit, has offensive sense, and a little mean streak....Even though we all know Smith is not comparable to either of those 3 players or the skills they possessed.

My point was...
Lidstrom can't fight and blow people off their skates.  Fifteen years from now, Lidstrom and Weber will be labeled as two of the best defensemen ever to play the game.  
I doubt our 3 future first round picks will ever be that good.  Weber is a proven commodity...the future 3 first rounders are not...  

In the first 6 years Lidstrom had 60 goals, Weber had 97 goals on an average Nashville team.  Both are great and accomplish their business in different ways. Lidstrom would prefer to poke-check, Weber prefers to check.  

My point is... Anyone close to the ability of Lidstrom is worth 3 first rounders!!!!!

Weber isn't worth it this offseason

I strongly disagree... Weber is Nick Lidstrom/Scott Stevens/Stu Grimson in one player.  

This is what I'm talking about....  This is a Stanley Cup lineup with the best defense and rolling out 4 solid lines.

FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Dustin Penner ($4.250m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Danny Cleary ($2.800m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.200m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($1.200m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Shea Weber ($8.500m) / Ryan Suter ($6.000m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)
BUYOUTS
Jakub Kindl ($0.008m)

Message to Ken Holland from the fans…

We want a strong defense!

Ryan Suter (NAS)





Jason Garrison (FLA)





Shea Weber (NAS) Whatever it takes ethically…

http://youtu.be/hPMkMuWiPEI

The Jets are cash strapped, they are poorly managed. heck they only have 4 players signed through the 2013 season. How does any team only have 4 guys signed? TBH if we are going to try and deal with the jets, I would rather go after their Dman Bo-soemthing or another. Big young Rh D. Fills more of a need.

Excellent point...  The Wings won 4 Stanley Cups because the other teams poor management.  You all know for sure the Jets are smart enough to re-sign Evander Kane! LOL!

Kris Draper for a dollar from Winnipeg!
Kirk Maltby a trade with Edmonton in '95 for defenseman Dan McGillis!  WHO IS DAN McGILLIS!!!!
Vladimir Konstantinov 1989: 11th round, (221st overall)
Sergei Fedorov 1989 - 4th round (74th overall)
Keith Primeau to Hartford for Brendan Shanahan!
Nick Lidstrom 1989 - 3rd round (53rd overall)
Slava Kozlov 1990 - 2nd round (45th overall)
Bob Probert  1983 - 3rd   (46th overall)
Joe Kocur 1983 - 5th Round, (88th overall)
Johan Franzen 2004 - 3rd round (97th overall)
Darren Helm 2005 - 5th round (132nd overall)
Pavel Datsyuk1998 - 6th round (171st overall)
Valtteri Filppula 2002 - 3rd round (95th overall)
Tomas Holmstrom 1994 - 10th round (257th overall)
Henrik Zetterberg 1999 - 7th round (210th overall)
Jonathan Ericsson 2002 - 9th Round, (291st overall)
Chris Osgood 1991 - 3rd round (54th overall)
Jimmy Howard 2003 - 2nd Rnd, (64th overall)


The best move was, LARRY MURPHY 1997 Trade for "future considerations."  Murphy was essentially run out of town by Leafs faithful unimpressed with his
defensive play. Detroit gave up nothing to get the future Hall of Famer - the Leafs even paid some of Murphy’s salary - but the move paid off big time for the
Red Wings, who went on to win the Stanley Cup that year and the next.

This is the year Brendan Smith has to show something.  Holland needs to structure the budget to either sign Brendan Smith to a big contract in 2013, or have room to sign a big unrestricted defenseman like Weber in 2013.  If Brendan doesn't show anything special, I'd sign him to a comparable salary to Johnathan Ericsson.  Then I would have several million to go after unrestricted free agent Shea Weber.  With this strategy, Quincey, Bertuzzi and Kindl are toast in 2013.  This strategy also requires the Redwings to hold off on spending about $6 million until 2013 off season.     I really like a restricted free agents T.J. Oshie and Evander Kane because they are very young, tough to play against and have outstanding skills...plus you have room for the best defense in the NHL.

Watch their videos below:
T.J. Oshie of St. Louis, (26 Years Old) <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv2014005057MsoNoSpacing"> <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv2014005057MsoNoSpacing"> <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv2014005057MsoNoSpacing"> <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv2014005057MsoNoSpacing">Evander Kane of Winnipeg (20 Years Old) Kane is a 30 goal scorer on a poor Winnipeg team.  He's restricted, but I think he's worth a very high price. <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv2014005057MsoNoSpacing">http://youtu.be/xW9Sp-WndwA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xml29FI8smw


My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Evander Kane ($4.200m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.000m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.200m) / Darren Helm ($1.200m) / Danny Cleary ($2.800m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($6.000m) / Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Kyle Quincey ($3.250m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)
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(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,892,045; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $6,407,955 Under Salary Cap