Probert 5 For Fighting

I respect that, but people really have to look at this realistically.  A guy like Moen really isn't that necessary on our team.  Darren Helm and Abdelkader are both excellent checking forwards and at least one of them will be with our big club all season next year - that's plenty of energy right there.  Leino should prove to be a capable replacement for Hudler, if nothing else a better skater and worker down along the boards.  There's some more energy.  Basically, a lot of our needs can be replenished through the system - sans Hossa, who is simply irreplaceable at this point.  We can make due, and having a guy like Moen isn't going to change things a whole lot one way or another.

It just seems to be the same old song with Wings fans - whenever the team loses, everybody jumps off the and loses their s*** and calls for more "grit" and a "fighter."  Of course, Holland's too smart to waste 12-14 minutes a game on a guy who can't skate or just fights, and we keep winning a lot of games, and the team keeps going.  I expect the same result this season.

Proven winner is meaningless since that's not an individual stat.  Clutch scorer?  Must have been some real dandies amongst those 10 goals he's scored total the past two seasons.

I like Moen.  He's a young, decent, defensive forward.  But too many around here think guys like him will be some sort of Godsend for our franchise.  This Wings team has most of its bases covered.  They have the grit and checking everybody here is suddenly complaining about.  Burkie will do his thing, and Holland will do his.

PS.  Moen played 16 minutes a game in a full season two years ago and managed to muster 8 points.  8.  f*** me sideways with a lunchbox.  How anybody can claim this guy can pick up what Hossa/Hudler/Sammy left behind is mindboggling to me.

I really can't tell if Icesurfer is serious.  This is hilarious.

That reason is often money.  However, the Russians have really pushed the envelope and changed the way GMs can approach Euro stars.

Dozens of quality NHL players flock to the Euro leagues every year, and many veteran talents who chose never to cross the pond dot their rosters, and a lot of NHL guys who played there during their lockout didn't put up nearly the numbers you would think.  You operate under a mindset where every person on the planet thinks the NHL is the only place to play elite hockey.  That's simply not true.  The Swedes, Czechs, Russians and others all have elite tier-one leagues.  Why are you passing judgement on brands of hockey you're not even giving a chance?  "The easy way out?"  Give me a break.  Hudler has proved his mettle, and he has ascended to the highest levels of hockey.  Whether it's in NA or Europe, it's really not as divisive as you think.  They gave him a lot more money.  End of story.   Spouting s*** about his lack of desire or him not being wanted on your team is inane.