Shaman

sammy not being useless!!!!!! Goal!!!!

Refs 1 us 0, now we can ******* see who the NHL wants to win.

Youre mad man, Id of just bought a new hard drive...

I am so excited that my blood vessels popped, but since im a wings fan, I used the blood to draw a giant winged wheel on my house.

6-1 Det, (zetts 3, Dats 1, Nick 1, Hudler 1) And Crosby touches the octopus.

Ms Maggie is good for the first 3 rounds but i believe she is 0-3 for the SCF, she cant pick Stanley cup winners.

Ever watch AO a lot of his break aways are what would have been 2 line passes in the old NHL.

His presence means a lot alone, thats one more person they have to watch, meaning someone else is freed up.

Because i like defensive play and hate watching players cherry pick waiting for their Dmen to get the puck and pass it across the ice to them for a break away. Takes no skill to cherry pick.

put 2 line pass back in.

#1 Crosby will never be Gretzky no matter what anyone thinks, 2 different players in 2 different time. Besides Gretzky had 55 goals and 109 assists his 3rd year, and the next year he had 92 goals, if Crosby ever hits 60 goals ill eat my words, but ill say this he will never be a 60 goal scorer, he may hit 120+ points but it will be 90 As 30 Gs. #2 The Red Wings had what was called the Dead Wings period, they couldnt make the playoffs to save their life so, dont say we dont know struggles, maybe not recently, but, we have. #3 Your team wasnt built it was made by top 15 picks, your top 3 scorers were all 1-12 in the draft, ours on the other hand, well Franzen was 97th, and he was the highest pick of the 3, the wings used good drafting, they werent just handed the players like Pittsburgh was. As for being Dismantled, well we lost Shany, Yzerman, Hull, Lucky Luc, Scheinder, etc etc etc, any other team to lose players like that wouldnt be able to compete, but, The Wings have a system and scouts and can put together a good team no matter what the circumstances. #4 They do deserve credit for their turn around, buttttttt, which team was dead last in their conference and then the very next year competed to play for the Stanley Cup the very next year without the likes of Hossa Crosby or Malkin? It wasnt the Pens. #5 Crosby whines, so do other players, hell if i had a nickel for everyone who said Chelios whines id be a millioniare, donest make it untrue though. Get over it!

I just posted this on the pens board but id like to put it here too. Ok ill break it down using the Playoffs as my sample size Zetterberg 21 Pts 11 G 10 A > Crosby 21 Pts 4 G 17 A (Zetterberg is a better Goal scorer, while Crosby can make plays Goals always mean more in the end, remember kiddos cool plays dont win games, pucks in the net do). Pavel Datsyuk 9 G 10 A tied with Hossa and Malkin, but, when comparing lines I will give this one as a tie. And who do you have like our #96? he can throw the best goalies off their game with just his ***, now thats talent. He makes our first line power play one of the most effective in the league. Now shall i get into Faceoff % or shall i just give it to Zetterberg and Detroits first line? Malkin 9 G 10 A = Franzen 12 G 3 A While Malkin has the edge in points, I still go back to my point that Goals mean more on the scoreboard. I give the Edge to Detroit I mean come on, when the person that is supposed to be the new 99 is tied with little Hudler in goals you cant say you have a better goal scorer in the playoffs. Now heres where it gets real fun, our back line, We have Lids, Rafi and Kronwall who are all able to put up points, who do you have? Wings fans keep talking about our Defenses defensive ability but we forget to mention that they are as good at scoring as some teams second line forwards.

The most amazing Stats our D have is +/- Lids has been the top defense men in that category for a long time., then we have Hank and Dats who lead any top line in +/- rating, I think that the first lines cancel out offensively, but, Detroit is 100x better on the front 3 defensively then Pittsburgh, and thats why our top line is better all around. Then our second D pairing will beat the hell out of you, no joke, watch kronwall (Hes leading D in scoring) and Stuart in any game and you will see they aren't just there to get points but to put the others team second line off their game by frustrating them with huge hits. So heres what I see, Lids keeping the puck away from Sid, and Kronwall putting malkin into the boards which will piss him off and he will take undisciplined penalties. And Dats and Zetts having more points then Hossa/Crosby not because they are hugely better then them offensively but because they are so good In the Defensive zone.

Rafalski was robbed, Gonchar wasnt close to Lids in either scoring or defensive ability...

Ok, Ill bite, Whos close to Lidstrom?

Det/Pit 4-2

Lids vs Crosby? this will be great Advantage Lids.

Zetterberg!!!!!

3-0 this might get ugly....

Dats with the PP goal!!!

under review...its a goal...

is it 8 yet?

I havent posted a prediction in the last 2 threads, but, that seems to not work, so 4-1 Detroit.

I want the old Fox glow puck damnit

Anyone else here feel better that Pitt didnt sweep?