Shaman

I would think the last few years of not going far in the playoffs because of lack of scoring would wake the management up. Its not like Cleary, Bert and Sammy will pull a Jagr and all of the sudden get a second wind.

1. Cleary and Samuelson play more games than Nyquist and Tatar. 2. Abdelkader doesn't break 20 goals. 3. At the deadline the following phrases will be used 'we kicked some tires' 'prices are too high' 'X player (coming off of IR) is our trade deadline acquisition' 'We just need to make the playoffs and anything can happen' 'we like our team'.

Short of him being a non-French player making that cash in Montreal, I can't imagine a more high pressure contract. He will either be sanctified or crucified, this deal leaves no middle ground.

1. (5) Alex Ovechkin(Was - RW) 2. (20) Taylor Hall(Edm - LW) 3. (29) Ryan Getzlaf(Anh - C) 4. (44) Ryan Suter(Min - D) 5. (53) Duncan Keith(Chi - D) 6. (68) Mike Smith(Pho - G) 7. (77) Cam Ward(Car - G) 8. (92) Ryan Kesler(Van - C) 9. (101) James van Riemsdyk(Tor - LW) 10. (116) Victor Hedman(TB - D) 11. (125) Mike Richards(LA - C,LW) 12. (140) Sam Gagner(Edm - C,RW) 13. (149) Paul Martin(Pit - D) 14. (164) Jiri Tlusty(Car - LW) 15. (173) Zach Bogosian(Wpg - D) 16. (188) James Reimer(Tor - G) 17. (197) Jonathan Ericsson(Det - D) 18. (212) Brad Boyes(Fla - C,RW) 19. (221) Lee Stempniak(Cgy - LW,RW) My team, any thoughts?

I can see it, but if you had both Sedins, Elder and Lou, I am sure it would have been a lot closer. As I said, a good rule of thumb is no more than 2 from a team. I had Zetterberg, Datsuyk and Rafalski in 2007-2008, I did great, but lost out on first place because of a couple low scoring affairs in weeks that the Wings had only a couple games, and lost the weeks on that account.

I was there, I saw it.

A good rule of thumb is unless you're getting Crosby, Malkin and Letang, getting more than 2 player on your team from the same club is a bad idea. I have seen some people get 3-4 players from the same team, they do great in the week, but, only play two games, and get beaten by quantity in their weekly match up. PS I have one Wing on my team, Ericsson, as a bench D-man because I think he will be a good plug for when Keith/Suter/Hedman/Martin/Bogosian aren't playing

Keep him in GR, a goalie of his potential needs to be a regular starter. PS I believe he eats at his waiver exempt status whether he starts or rides the pine.

The team will lose one of Ganger/Nail/Schultz due to cap limitations, but, you got to pick your poison and you can't let a guy like RHN get away.

As others have pointed out Cleary's points were the flukey kind that its hard to draw any conclusions about.

So Burke sued the whole Internet?

Looked more like the scrum after the hit was more dangerous to the guy on the ice than the hit itself. Was it a borderline hit? Sure. Is it worse than some of the BS teams have gotten away with against the Wings last playoffs? Not even close.

I hope Pulkkinen does well tonight, he is my favorite prospect.

I saw what happened, he slashed, cross checked and talked s*** to a fellow red wings prospect, then after he got the reaction he wanted proceeded to injure him.

Never like this pick, seemed like a poor move by Holland and co. Glad its paying dividends.

Where are the line ups Hockeytown? And don't give me they aren't posted, if you can't find them online I demand you dress as a ninja, break into the Wing's locker room and get them to us!

So after a couple intra-team scrimmages against mostly players with 0 NHL experience people are ready to call him Homer 2.0. This will end really badly if that's what you think he is.

They all wanted Lidstrom back, and Yzerman. Sentimentality is wonderful, but, sometimes it ends with Cleary being a Red Wing years after he's become an ineffective player.

Well he's got waiver options... So I would say he could easily start the season in GR.

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Too much for him, hes lost a few steps, isn't durable, and wasn't as clutch as his stats in the playoffs would suggest. Enjoy this boat anchor Philly.

Abdelkader is not Holmstrom first. Second, Holmstrom wasn't some physical dynamo, a lot of his career he was known for falling at the slightest touch by anyone.

Actually the top line and Jarnkrok I believe all have AHL experience, even if its only a few games.

I picked Tatar, if he can pot 20+ this season he will give the wings the kind of scoring depth that cost them against Chicago last year.

I don't know, I simmed an entire season using bubble hockey and needless to say, Zetterberg had 420 goals and 674 assists. It seemed like a legit.