stevkrause

uh... read your aticle again, that quote at the beginning was him referring to Columbus...

I'd take him for 1mil or less... 2.5 is pure speculation and I can't see Holland offering ANYWHERE near that... If it's true, we would have been better off giving Sammy 3.5 and trading someone...

It's a disgrace to Konstantinov and Fischer to put Krupp in that category with them... and as much as I like the hometown guy, I would hardly count Hatcher's 15 games in one season with us as being worthy of being on the same list as Konstantinov or Fischer either... especially since it was not the last season of his career...

here's to hoping Lils just wakes up one day SOON, feeling completely fine and never has any signs of pcs again :beerbuddy: a guy can hope....

Can we please just kill this topic already - he IS NOT COMING BACK HERE... Plus, this is a horrible comparison, Drake had NEVER won a cup and left it all on the ice for his shot... Shanny has won 3... hardly the same motivation... He is a shell of himself and needs to retire and DEFINITELY is not what we need... I loved him when he was here, but he is done.

exactly... after a buy out, a player is already getting a guaranteed paycheck, so couple that with a chance to win a cup and basically the same paycheck (with basically just another team paying half of it) and you get a steal in some cases...

hell, add Grier too - trade Lebda and Keep Meech and Maltby as reserves... PLAYER BONUS CAP HIT FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk — $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg — $6,083,333 Johan Franzen — $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula — $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary — $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom — $2,250,000 Kris Draper — $1,583,333 * Vaclav Prospal — $1,450,000 * Mike Grier — $1,000,000 Kirk Maltby — $883,333 Justin Abdelkader ($140,000) $850,000 Ville Leino — $800,000 Darren Helm — $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom — $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski — $6,000,000 Brad Stuart — $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall — $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja — $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson — $900,000 Derek Meech — $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood — $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard — $716,666 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 22 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,920,653 BONUSES $140,000 CAP SPACE $19,347 SIGN ME UP FOR THAT!

I'd say full time 2nd line: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Franzen-Filppula-Prospal Leino-Helm-Cleary Abdelkader-Draper-Maltby/FA Signing looks damn good to me... especially with him on the PP...

now THIS is a topic worth talking about... what the hell is TB doing?!? even at 3.5... they're gonna be on the hook for over half, so how is another guy work like 1.5 gonna be better than him?!? Since he's getting a paycheck from TB anyway, Kenny, please, PLEASE offer him a 1.5 a year deal and a chance to win a cup... I'd love to see him here!

I don't mean an out clause at any time through the whole contract... a lot of NHL'ers deals over seas have a window where they can opt out of their contract within like the first 3-6mths of the deal...

I still don't see him as a Wing, but I wonder if his contract has an out clause if he gets an NHL offer he likes...

unless he actually clears waivers and they buy him out, I'd pass at 1.7... get him around 1 a year and I'd take a flier on the guy...

what's Paul Ysebaert up to these days?

haha - what a nutjob.... I don't know why any NHL team would want this ass

Already 4 mil over and almost NO one they can move and it's not even the 10-11 RFA HELL season they have coming up, GOOD JOB Tallon! :rotflmao:

nice cap hit, locked up for 3 years, spends next year working out issues in GR to be a full timer in 2011... looks good to me. - 2011 backend: Lidstrom(he will re-sign)-Rafalski Ericsson-Kronwall Stuart-Kindl Meech and Lebda - your time is limited...

no, not #29... no, not #5... the other guy.

and way more personality...

there's your definition, haha

we wouldn't get anything for him in a trade...

while he's good enough and all, I don't think he will ever turn into much... maybe a 4th liner at best, I wouldn't bother carrying him on the roster and if someone snags him on waivers, it'd be a bummer, but no big deal, he's already almost 25 and doesn't really even crack the top 15 in terms of prospects... Also, he's not very big, so for a checker... that's a downside... great defensively and great character, but unless he either gets tougher, or gets even faster (he's already pretty quick, but not Darren Helm quick) I don't see him ever being a Wing...

considering that the arbitrator is probably going to award him at least 3 mil a year and that we don't have that without making at least one major trade... I'd almost rather let him walk by this point... the only way I see paying him, is if Lilja is going to get LTIR'd, in which case, the cap space is there...

first off, welcome. next, there really are so many what if's in this world, and although they're fun to think about (and sometimes gut wrenching) there's no real way to know how it would have worked out, so one can't really compare what ifs to certainties. On that note, what if the Tigers had taken Carl Crawford for Jair Jurrjens straight up at the end of 07 at the deadline, rather than waiting to the off season and trading him for Renteria - that's the what if that wrenches my gut the most...

It's such a win-win scenario - teams with more money can spend over and keep players they developed and teams that make less get money from the luxury tax the teams choose to pay to spend over... I don't know why they didn't put one in there... I blame Bettman.