stevkrause

crazy deja vu, for some reason, I feel as though we've had this discussion before...

how do you figure? we don't have anyone that is, or would be making a veteran's minimum...

I think players most certainly make dynasties... think of the Oilers of the 80's, Habs of the 60's and Islanders of the 70's... every single one of those dynasties, you can connect to a core group of 5-7 or so players...

I agree on everything you said and I don't think he WILL make the team... I'm just saying don't rule him out... you never know... he's HUGE and VERY quick... 2 things Babs loves, speed and size...

I very rarely use the abbreviation "lol" because it's usually not true, I'm usually not "laughing out loud" but rather just smiling and rather chuckling to myself... but that graffic just actually made me audibly laugh to you good sir - :beerbuddy:

I know I'm a little late to this party, but Ryno almost made the team out of camp 2 years ago... I definitely wouldn't rule him out...

right, but that's in a cap wide open world... this would not remove the cap, simply allow teams to go over when they've earned it and deem it viable... and ALSO, this puts more money into those smaller teams... win-win. You could even add a further stipulation, limiting the number of "franchise" players that a team can do this with... therefore, limiting a cap break even more... but still allowing a team to hold onto it's 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round picks that THEY turned into NHL'ers because of a great system...

I guess that's where I don't have a problem with it... I'm all for dynasty's and think sports need them more today...

It would have been Hudler, but the fact he wet to the KHL leaves a bad taste in my mouth... I'm gonna say Conks, he was such a likable guy and really was solid while Ozzy struggled last year...

I'm sorry, this is driving me nuts.... When saying something along the lines of "they're going to be better" it is short for they are it is - THEY'RE - like "they're going to be better" / not THERE, as in "hey look over THERE" I see that on this board all the time and I saw it in this thread... sorry for snapping, that's probably my biggest grammar annoyance

I hate the other league comparison, because they're not the same in any way, it's apples to oranges... teams that purposely "tanks" a few years to "stock up on picks"... are you f'in kidding me? that would NEVER happen and plus... a top 5 pick doesn't guarantee a player will be good, or good right away and if a team REALLY want to blow a decade of futility for one or 2 years of power, let them have at it... because they would lose other guys in the process and this isn't the NBA (once again, they are different leagues) one or 2 stars doesn't win a cup - it takes a TEAM.

yes, I was thinking the same thing... care to point out who?

but this just further prooves the reason for this... it gives the owners the CHOICE... they don't have to go over and most won't want to spend the 100% luxury tax... it'd just be a nice way to keep your own guys... let it only apply to homegrown guys and make it a 100% tax IE. Cap is 57 mil - and you have 8 guys that you have home grown, and their total salaries equal 40 million (say 5 mil a guy, all home grown guys) then you can round out the rest of your roster and depending on which one you want (the 50% discount, or the 25%) you could chose to defer UP TO 20 million or UP TO 10 million of that salary (once again depending on which plan you want, the 50% discount, or the 25%) away from the cap space and in turn, you have to invest that exact amount back into league revenue sharing... ALL it does, it strengthen the league.

I just don't see spending that kinda money on a guy who isn't a great physical threat or a great scorer, just ok at both... if he's willing to sign for 1.4 or less, then I'm on board... why not bring in another Sweede, we gotta replace the one we lost, haha But seriously, I see him wanting a lateral move or maybe even a little more than he got last year and I just don't see him being worth it

Adds some sandpaper, can chip in for a few points, good defensively and would come on the cheap (probably 750k or less)

The thing I like most about Malhotra is his style of play and his faceoff abilities... always nice to have a key faceoff guy who can kill penalties I wouldn't mind seeing this: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Franzen-Filppula-Leino Abdelkader-Helm-Cleary Draper-Malhotra-Maltby

I was unaware Ellis re-signed, thank you for the heads up

There are only one left that I would take a flier on, in this order, depending on price are: Dan Hinote Manny Malhotra Travis Moen Matt Ellis Mike Grier Mark Bell

health concerns or not, I'd take a flier on the guy right now... he'd come most likely on the cheap and add what we need...

please read the whole thread again... we are not suggesting a wide open luxury tax, just something that allows teams to keep their own guys - you would still have a maximum salary, a minimum salary, etc... they could also add rules about number of maximum salaries to like 2, regardless of the player being "home grown"... once again, structure right and it would not cause this in the slightest

why is everyone just reading the initial post? if you read through the thread, you will see solutions offered - I don't think anyone is suggesting a wide open luxury tax, there would be stipulations and rules... the main point would be to not punish teams for drafting and developing right and thus being able to keep THEIR players... not to go out and drop money on the problem via FA

not. if. it's. structured. right.

I said locked in, I didn't say total...

it doesn't if it's structured right.

he will do something, just not going to go spend crazy and the only quality guys left on the cheap are D... which we don't need... would you calm down?! we just locked up two 1a players long term last year DURING the season, of course it's going to be a slow off season...