stevkrause

They can use those bonuses on this years cap, they don't have to carry them over and we have the space on this years, so why wouldn't they absorb them for this year? As for Emmerton, exactly as you said, it could be him or Miller, whomever they feel is worth keeping, I basically just used Miller to fill the spot to prove the point... As for Eaves, remember, players are people too and I'm sure he doesn't want to bounce around a whole lot more, especially after he was almost out of the league before he found a home here... I could easily see him staying for even less than 1.5, but wouldn't be surprised if we gave him more either... One way or another though, those three will surely not take 5.5 worth of cap, so if one gets more, one will probably get less (likely Howard won't see much more than 2) - either way, I see it not being a problem, but yes, it will be tight...

Mursak could still develop into top 6 material as well... I just like the concept of Helm and Mursak on a line together, that's some VERY hard speed to compete with...

you don't HAVE to carry 23 men on a roster, especially when you have players in the minors that can be called up when needed, also, realistically, Eaves and Ericsson will get decent raises more than likely, but neither will more than likely end up north of 1.5, so for arguments sake, plus 2.5 is a high estimate for Howard, we'll peak them all for this example, but even likely without the cap going up, it can be done, and this doesn't even account for potential trades, etc... Cap raised by 600k for modest estimation of cap inflation - THESE ARE NOT LINE COMBOS - JUST THE WAY CAPGEEK FORMATTED IT CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m) Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) Jan Mursak ($0.646m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.500m) Drew Miller ($0.650m) DEFENSEMEN Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m) Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Ruslan Salei ($1.300m) Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($1.500m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.500m) /Ty Conklin(or other backup - Conks just used to prove a point) ($0.750m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $60,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,604,822; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $395,178 Still adds an extra forward and D-man

Even if Lidstrom returns, with the capspace gone from Modano, Draper gone/reduced and Osgood's cap gone, plus the raise the cap will surely take (as minute as it may be), in addition to the raises that all 3 will require, we'll have enough room... if Lidstrom retires, without a doubt and then some... Callahan is looking to be such a steal so far, lets hope he keeps developing as he has been... it's pretty exciting for the future...

I kinda forget about Larsson at times, I wonder if there'd be any bad blood between he and Howard with the way he went out (saying he was better than Howard and should have gotten he chance over him, but if that's not an issue, I wouldn't have a problem with him being given a chance to be a backup, I just would kinda like a veteran to hold that role, which is why I suggested bringing Conklin back(plus he's supposed to be one HELL of a team guy), but I really think Osgood will be hanging them up after this season one way or another as he's now had groin injuries in back to back years and this one is a tricky one... I also agree that McCollum needs at least one more year in GR... As for Kindl, I think you're dead on about the time we've spent, which is why I said I could take or leave him, I don't think he NEEDS to go, but as VM touched on, if we got a good enough offer via trade, or package, I'd be ok with letting him go, especially if Lids hangs them up and we have a chance at a Bieksa or another player of that caliber.

I will do what I have done for the last 3 or so years, watch the skills competitions and ignore the boring, pointless exhibition game EDIT - Side note, I'd take zero all-stars and a big shiny piece of hardware at the end of the season, over a team full of "All-Stars" and an early playoff exit every year

That's not how cap relief works, you don't get additional capspace from it, it just allows teams to stay cap compliant while a player is out for call-ups, but they must become cap compliant the minute the player is off IR... also, bonuses very rarely go off of games played, but even if they did, it would still be just that - games played, not games active.

Why not LTIR him at this point though to be honest? Frees up the roster spot as well and it's not like he'll be ready before they can lift it, especially if they retroactive it...

This whole thread = :rotflmao:

you really are a sick, sick, sick individual...

You are 100% correct sir... they might not retroactive his IR all the way back though, I'm sure they worked it out with doctors so that his LTIR will be ending right around the time he is expected back...

If he takes the job, how is he going to handle the conflict between his never ending erection for the Penguins and his allegiance to his new team? Agreed!

Perfectly stated. excellent post!

He's got a good enough shot and defensive sense, that's not a crazy thought at all....

Don't be an enabler...

That's why they need to lock him up long term before he ever gets to FA... as I've said a million times before, he is the type of player you win cups with and with Draper, Modano, maybe Lidstrom, etc retiring, they have the cap space... I'd have ZERO problem with them going as high as 2.5 a year for upwards of 5 years... that's how confident I am in him and that he has found where he belongs(much like Cleary) and can fill MULTIPLE roles... they let him get away and it will be ONE of the biggest mistakes by an otherwise stellar Wings front office in the last 15 years...

No other way to say it...

In the press box, where he belongs and thankfully sucking up cap space somewhere other than here... there are at least 6 other guys in the Wings system I would rather have in there over Lebda...

It doesn't have to... Modano only getting even strength time and Hudler and Eaves playing PP, done and done. Exactly!

That better be 3 games MINIMUM for suspension... that was the textbook definition of a headshot AND it resulted in an injury

How the hell was that elbow missed?????

ok, that would make it a lot better of a deal both ways...

Great pickup for the Stars, the guy just flat shows up in clutch games and needed to get out of the hole in NJ, I'm sure he'll really turn it around in Dallas... I'm a little surprised the Devils gave him away for so little though... they should have at least made that a conditional 3rd rd pick, that could have turned into a 2nd, or a 2nd and 3rd, or 2nd and 4th, etc... depending on how he does, with it being a minimum of a 3rd...

I do the same thing, only I very rarely use names, as I don't want to sound biased, I merely suggest they should stop marketing the same players over and over without ever exposing the other stars in the game... I pretty much use EVERY opportunity possible though to point out the promos on other channels thing and also point out they should do more product placement in shows, movies, etc... maybe instead of the guy taking the new cute girl to a ballgame in the chick-flick, maybe he takes her to an NHL game, having characters from shows were a jersey or hat, etc...

Just wondering how many of you participate in this? www.nhlfanfaceoff.com They send out surveys periodically to gauge the marketing of the NHL and a LOT of them seem to be skewed to the same crap they try and shove down everyone's throats, but you can also give some good feedback about how sick you are of hearing about Crosby and (my hope) maybe help fix an otherwise abysmal marketing department to help grow our great game...