GMRwings1983

In breaking news, Holland has just traded Steven Weiss to Buffalo. Everyone has an ego, so he probably doesn't feel they'll lose. He probably thinks "he" can be the one to change their fortune. Also, the money is pretty damn good, you must admit. Another s***ty season in Detroit, and he won't demand the same amount of money. He needs to jump on the gravy train while it's there.

I'm moved by your passion on this topic. I hope Babcock takes another three weeks deciding, with Holland acting as puppy dog.

The Cup Finals haven't started yet. Besides, if the Ducks and Lightning play in the Finals, nobody in this country will watch it anyway. Come to think of it, there's maybe 3 or 4 people in the Midwest that even know who Babcock is. Nobody here really cares about this story. It's just Wings fans who do.

Would be nice if honesty was actually practiced, wouldn't it?

Sadly, this is the only noise Babcock makes anymore this far into the season.

Would Holland offer Babcock more money than he makes himself?

That's what happened with Yzerman leaving and Holland staying. How is that working out for us? He needs to overripe.

Kenny needs to put his foot down.

You get the idea.

Lilja will be there to break Babcock's thumbs and make him sign a contract for $1 million a year.

We were in the playoffs? I must have blinked and missed it.

Our PK wasn't that good when it came down to it. The powerplay was pretty good, however. Not sure if that's the assistant coaches, or the fact that this team was much healthier this season than in past seasons. Less jobbers on the powerplay.

It would be weird to have a coach who's better than any defenseman on the team. Kind of like when Mario was Penguins GM.

So Babcock didn't have any say in Samuelsson and Bertuzzi taking icetime away from Nyquist and Tatar for several years? How about Cleary's return? All Holland's fault? Babcock is partly responsible for this "overripe" crap. Playing your 4th line 15+ minutes in big games is also Babcock's fault. He gives the wrong people more icetime and has the worst line combos of any coach I've ever seen. Defense wise, I agree he doesn't have much to choose from. There's no way to mix and match our defense pairings and not get an underwhelming lineup together there. We've discussed this before. I feel Babcock is equally responsible for those decisions. I have a hard time believing that Holland made unilateral decisions on signings and trades without consulting Babcock at all. If so, then by all means, let's fire Kenny only. But I don't think so.

That's true, but for the first time in maybe ever, if I had to choose between Holland and Babcock, I'd choose Holland. Babcock's line combos with those "mediocre" players have gotten on my nerves. At least Kenny tried to improve the team this season by making moves before the deadline. Babcock just kept doing the same stubborn s***.

Maybe they see the Wings recent playoff struggles and wonder, "Can this guy win anything anymore unless he's coaching team Canada?"

I agree. Just let this idiot go and name Blashill as our new coach with Dan Cleary and Nicklas Lidstrom as assistant coaches. How freaking hard is that?

He kept "The Streak" alive!

Yeah, because Detroit is such a hot spot with a great reputation.

Just like Yzerman was not yet overripe to become Wings GM a few years back.

I don't understand why people here have such a hard time realizing this.

How do you know that isn't part of the master plan?

Aren't you my sock account? I was just trying to explain why Cherry never won anything. He had some good teams in Boston, but those late 70's Montreal teams were just too good. Yes, I will miss those first round playoff exits. They're so much better than missing the playoffs. "It depends" should be one of the options. Like, will Holland be back too? I don't want both of them back again.